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It is being reported on the Valley Echo that new lift pass tariffs are going to be published on 1 Nov. The over 30 3V season pass is apparently going up to €1489 (Meribel valley €1138) and the <30 3V €1042.30 (Meribel valley €796).
It is also being reported that there will be no saisonnaire's discount and that there will be no free lift passes for over 75s from the 23/24 season.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@Mike S, any news on duo pass ?
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@skimottaret, looks like that's gone
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Yup-that seems to be the current price list. I confess I'd half expected it to be more.
The duo price reduction was never a great deal (€30 or €40 per person?). What I did resent this summer was having to stump up another 100 euros for a 3V pedestrian pass and to charge for La Masse, and Cime Caron after one free ticket for each. I guess that this will be the standard approach from hereon in.
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I believe Three Valleys is the same lift company as Paradiski and Tignes/Val. Why the big difference in season pass cost?
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Yup-that seems to be the current price list. I confess I'd half expected it to be more.
The duo price reduction was never a great deal (€30 or €40 per person?). What I did resent this summer was having to stump up another 100 euros for a 3V pedestrian pass and to charge for La Masse, and Cime Caron after one free ticket for each. I guess that this will be the standard approach from hereon in. |
I second that. We were disappointed to learn that, on our summer trip to Val Thorens.
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I believe Three Valleys is the same lift company as Paradiski and Tignes/Val. Why the big difference in season pass cost? |
That's not quite the case. The lifts in Paradiski and Tignes / Val d'Isere are part of Compagnies des Alpes, as are Meribel and Les Menuires in 3V. But Courchevel and Mottaret are operated by a different company: S3V. And Val Thorens is different again.
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That's crazy. I wouldn't say it's a better area that the EK and that's considerably cheaper
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@Bergmeister, EK season pass for 2022-23 is 990€ versus 1489€ for 3V. We are being fleeced!
How many times have you taken up the benefits of skiing in Vail resorts or Valley Nevado?
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andy1234 wrote: |
@Bergmeister, EK season pass for 2022-23 is 990€ versus 1489€ for 3V. We are being fleeced! |
It's not good to look at these things, it'll just depress you. Especially if I tell you that the Paradiski is €730... (on the discounted early bird offer that they've offered for as long as I can remember)
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You know it makes sense.
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andy1234 wrote: |
@Bergmeister, EK season pass for 2022-23 is 990€ versus 1489€ for 3V. We are being fleeced!
How many times have you taken up the benefits of skiing in Vail resorts or Valley Nevado? |
plus this season up to 8 y/o free
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Bergmeister wrote: |
February will be our 4th Vail resorts freebie |
Can't help thinking that you are in a teeny tiny minority in actually using that benefit... I've always seen it as little more than a marketing gimmick on both sides of the pond.
Personally, I'd far rather have a lower price and the two free days in either the PSki or EK that they used to give out with the 3V season pass. Was always nice to have an away day for a change of scene and a reminisce about other areas I used to ski before committing long term to the 3Vs.
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If it is correct that no free passes for over 75s from 2023-4 season I am stumped. I have waited years to qualify as the age for free pass was 65 when I started skiing 3V and has gone up and up. I will be 75 on 23 Dec 2023! Mr Mogulski has had 1 season free and hopefully the coming season too. I bet once we get to being 80 it will go up again or are they completely scrapping free passes? We both got free passses in Andorra a few years ago when it was over 70 but that has gone up too. It really affects where we choose to ski and were looking forward to free 3V.
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@mogulski, I agree! You've just made the other point that I was going to make
I have some way to go but I have often said to people that my ambition is to get that free season pass, it's motivational! But I have also watched as the age keeps going up and can't help thinking it will be soon be 80+ and by the time I'm that age... well. And once it gets that high, you'll get more politics because they could easily be accused of encouraging people to ski that actually shouldn't be skiing and it's dangerous.
Perhaps a more realistic option is to see them giving a significant reduction to over 75s in the same way as they do to under 30s (which I definitely see as age discrimination against the over 30s!).
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@Raceplate, You should go look at the prizegiving at a Masters race. The over 80s podiums are still quite spritely.
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@rjs, I will use that as additional motivation!
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Looks like the €1,489 season price is confirmed with no further increase. The S3V online purchase system is live at that price... (Weekly prices have gone up though.)
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You know it makes sense.
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EK season pass for 2022-23 is 990€ versus 1489€ for 3V. We are being fleeced!
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Not at all! It's 600km of piste vs 250km. On that basis, €2,000 a pop would be entirely reasonable
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I think that it is highly likely that the EK season pass will go up too. The website currently states: ' Ski pass prices 2022 / 2023* *Rates given for information only and subject to change due to changes in the cost of energy.'
Last edited by Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name: on Thu 20-10-22 20:55; edited 1 time in total
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mountainaddict wrote: |
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EK season pass for 2022-23 is 990€ versus 1489€ for 3V. We are being fleeced!
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Not at all! It's 600km of piste vs 250km. On that basis, €2,000 a pop would be entirely reasonable |
How about length of season in that equation to even it up.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Apartment prices in Tignes are shown in the above link as €4k per sq metre, which is way off the mark - ie far too low.
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mountainaddict wrote: |
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EK season pass for 2022-23 is 990€ versus 1489€ for 3V. We are being fleeced!
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Not at all! It's 600km of piste vs 250km. On that basis, €2,000 a pop would be entirely reasonable |
How about length of season in that equation to even it up. |
Score draw. Both areas are usually open from November to May.
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Bergmeister wrote: |
Score draw. Both areas are usually open from November to May. |
summer skiing was a none starter also this seasin
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Take it from an Australian. Do not travel to Australia for skiing. Far too unpredictable.
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But when it's good, it's brilliant. We struck lucky with conditions on our first visit to Oz in July 2015 - had a great time in a few days at Perisher and Thredbo as part of a three week trip
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@sbooker, It may be that 3V season pass holders use their passes more than EK season pass holders. The 3V has multiple cheapish places, Bozel, Brides les Bains, the Orelle valley, whereas EK doesn't really have an equivalent cheap base. It may be that there are plenty of retired/semi retired/WFHers in these places skiing much more than your typical seasonaire with maybe 2 days of skiing a week. On top of that, when I ski in the 3V I reckon that I clock up more vertical metres than in the EK as I spend more time searching out fun bits of off piste or skiing trickier terrain comparatively slowly in the EK whereas I tend to focus on fast piste skiing in the 3V. If you add those two factors together its plausible that an average 3V season pass holder clocks up 50% more lift usage than an EK pass holder. That could explain the price difference, or maybe they just charge more because they feel they can. I would imagine that a lot more 3V season passes are sold compared to EK ones, even if divided by number or lifts/km of pistes
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