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My wife and I arrived in Corvara yesterday and first day skiing today. FYI They were snowmaking around the village last night and it looks like maybe elsewhere.

We spent a chilled day around Alta Badia so avoided the SR but popped over to Santa Croce and did a few circuits there.

We’ve been very pleasantly surprised by the piste conditions. We feared the wind and lack of snow would have caused problems, the good news is all is well. E.g. We did the blue and red down to San Cassiano late afternoon and both were holding up really well. No icy patches, no mogul fields just a little bit choppy but pretty much as good as you could hope for at nearly 4pm. We came back via piste 8 which has a sticky patch by the bottom of Pralongia 2, last time we were here this was a small mogul field at the end of the day and a problem for less experienced skiers, today a bit patchy but not a meaningful bump in site. (Of course this may be good or bad news depending on your preference Very Happy )

It was a beautiful day but clouded over late on, some local weather reports are predicting snow showers this evening. Fingers crossed….

Lesson until 10 tomorrow then we’ll do a loop around the SR.

We were sat on the long chair lift up to Santa Croce around lunchtime, the sun was shining on the cliffs above the church and it made us feel lucky to be alive, this place is beautiful.
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Thanks for the update!!! Sounds fabulous!
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@richb67, Having just got back from 2 weeks in Alleghe then Arabba on the preBBWUW and the Birthday Bash I never cease to be impressed with how the Italians maintain the pistes in very good condition even when there has been little or no natural snow for quite some time. They really are masters (or should that be maestri? Toofy Grin ) at piste maintenance.
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@Alastair Pink, yes we were in Madonna last week and it was very similar there. I was amazed how quickly they got ‘snow’ back on the pistes after several days of high winds. Though evidently there has been such a high reliance on artificial snow some of the reservoirs are starting to run dry Mad
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On a different subject I can confirm that 168cm skis fit in the rear of a Fiat panda with at least a couple of cm to spare, well… as long as the driver or passenger has short legs Very Happy
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I came back from Selva yesterday -- I estimated 4 to 6 inches new snow in Selva Tuesday/Wednesday. Snow conditions are very good (hard, but no ice) ; Relatively quiet Pistes ;
FFP2 wearing enforced everywhere (People were not allowed to enter the Ciampinoi base station without the correct masks..)
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Thanks for the updates. Sounds grrrrreat! Little Angel
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Thanks for the positive updates! Hopefully it will be more than a dusting tonight and maybe something more Friday night! 6 sleeps to go! snowHead
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Sella Ronda areas are claiming 5-15cm overnight. Areas further north closer to the Austrian border got more, Speikboden got 35cm. Even Plose area near Brixen, within spitting distance from Val Gardena, got 30cm.
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The rooftops of Ortisei definitely look whiter than yesterday! snowHead

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Yes. Probably 3-4 inches of fresh snow in Corvara and 5-6 inches up the mountains. Lots if wind today so almost all the high up lifts are closed. We're keeping our fingers crossed they'll open this afternoon. Colfosco is very busy as it's quite sheltered.
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Yes. Probably 3-4 inches of fresh snow in Corvara and 5-6 inches up the mountains. Lots if wind today so almost all the high up lifts are closed. We're keeping our fingers crossed they'll open this afternoon. Colfosco is very busy as it's quite sheltered.


Yes the Edelweiss side valley at Colfosco is a good call when it's windy as it's more sheltered than many other areas. Plus it has some nice ski runs and some excellent restaurants. Madeye-Smiley
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Yes. Probably 3-4 inches of fresh snow in Corvara and 5-6 inches up the mountains. Lots if wind today so almost all the high up lifts are closed. We're keeping our fingers crossed they'll open this afternoon. Colfosco is very busy as it's quite sheltered.


Concur with this, I had a lesson first thing and the instructor had me practicing turns in 6 inches of powder down the easy side of the black on Colfosco, evidently we went there because nowhere else was open. The other (steeper) section only 50m away is more exposed so bare ice at the top. Winds so high even the lifts in Colfosco were stop start this morning with snow devils swirling around. Bergfex is estimating force 8 today. The forecast is slightly lighter winds tomorrow then back to good conditions from Wednesday so should be good from then onwards.

For those of you who know the area, the wind is so strong it was difficult to get any momentum skiing back into town alongside the long drag lift on piste 8 Sad
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We were staying just down the hill from Arabba: a few inches or so fell overnight but high winds at altitude. Skiing around yesterday there’s an impressive amount of artificial snow they churn out. Only time I’ve ever skied off the side on windblown snow machine pow. We decided to up sticks and adventure road trip to Austria for a few days in search of some off piste.
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We were staying just down the hill from Arabba: a few inches or so fell overnight but high winds at altitude. Skiing around yesterday there’s an impressive amount of artificial snow they churn out. Only time I’ve ever skied off the side on windblown snow machine pow. We decided to up sticks and adventure road trip to Austria for a few days in search of some off piste.


There's been loads north of the border. Let us know how it goes and if you have to do more Covid tests to enter Austria.
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@luigi, knee deep+ but will be dangerous today. Not doing anything steep just now. For Austria you need either 3 jabs or 2 jabs (last one within 6 months) and a negative PCR to do anything or go anywhere.
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A bit windy in Corvara first thing so looked at the weather forecast and popped over to Kronplatz for the day. We arrived late morning but Piste conditions were very good all day. it’s a bit browner over there so maybe they missed the snow from the other night, but there is still lovely snow on piste and some people were off pisting through the trees so good coverage.

We parked in St Vigil and headed up to the top of Kronplatz from there. I’m not a big black run guy but but my wife is a good skier so as the conditions were so good on the reds and blues we headed down black 4 (after Googling on the way up in a Gondola to make sure they were the steepest blacks in Europe!) It was mid afternoon and still in good nick. We didn’t see any ice all day but the red from the top towards St Vigil was pretty cut up at 4ish.

This was our first visit to Kronplatz and for some reason I wasn’t expecting much, the piste map looks so …dull! However we had a great day, there were some lovely runs through trees, fantastic views and no queues. We left thinking we will go back and even consider it for next years group trip as it looks a great resort for all abilities including less confident improvers. The only down side was the amount of walking between gondolas, it’s the first day I’ve done 10k steps whilst skiing Sad
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@richb67, the main two runs back to SV from the top of Kronplatz are Sonne and Furcia. They do get cut up. Try the alternative Blue Furcia which tends to stay better. Can’t remember the piste number. 9?
Piculin is the sustained steep black but enjoyable. If you parked in SV you may have bypassed that one
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I was blown away by Kronplatz the day I went there. It is surely the pinnacle of managed skiing but in a good way.

I’ve never skied on such consistently wide runs before. I’m afraid they did entice me into some rather fast speeds. The run down to Reid is superb and incredibly long. The blacks are immaculate but on the easy side because they are so well groomed. The Piculin however is the steepest on piste run I have ever skied. There must be some epic pile ups at the bottom. What a resort and fairly under visited by the British.
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Sounds interesting! Will take a look if we hire a car. The taxi costs from Innsbruck to Corvara are quite eye watering Crying or Very sad
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Kronplatz is definitely better than the piste map might suggest. It is the complete antithesis of the usual wild natural Italian ski resort. The South Tyroleans have manage to completely tame the mountain and stuff it with all the latest snowmaking and lift technology. Probably helped by the fact that they have managed to class ski lifts as public transport, so they attract all the tax breaks and subsidies as such. Italians love going there as it's all so swish and efficient.
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Springlike temps next couple of days, cooling towards the weekend.

Looking hopeful for another light top-up next Monday night, if Friday night doesn't amount to much.

How romantic for all you Valentines out there!! wink snowHead
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Probably helped by the fact that they have managed to class ski lifts as public transport, so they attract all the tax breaks and subsidies as such. Italians love going there as it's all so swish and efficient.


It definitely seems to be the most integrated public transport I’ve seen. This picture of a train arriving at a platform was taken from a gondola Very Happy

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We went on one of them trains when we went to Corvara a few years ago. Clean, efficient, spacious, comfortable and cheap. I was totally shocked, considering its not a main line.
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@luigi, re your upcoming trip. We found long queues for lift passes so if your accommodation picks them up it’s definitely worth doing. It was frustrating as we bought online but at Corvara couldn’t collect at a machine and still had to queue. We didn’t queue twice because we thought it was a one off ‘just bad timing’ but had to relent and join one in the end.
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Very sunny and spring like in the dolomites today. The blue at the top of the Edelweiss valley on Colfosco was pretty slushy by the afternoon and the bottom of the Pralongia chairlift was showing 15c at 2:30pm. Shocked

We did the Sella Ronda this morning. At first I thought it was going to be busy but a lot of people headed off towards Marmolada at Arraba and after that there wasn’t really much in the way of queuing.

The pistes are in great condition as always but the surrounding slopes are starting to look a bit bare again.
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We also did SR today (anti clockwise) with some time spent around Arabba. I dressed for warm weather but it was so warm I still had to remove layers in a gondola, fortunately only the top half and we were the only passengers Very Happy I was skiing in my jacket and a running top.

We didn’t start until nearly 10 and SR already seemed to be getting chopped up between the chairlifts on the way from Corvara to Selva, It was ok on the main slopes though. No big queues but a bit of scrum to get on Ciampinoi, reminiscent of pre-covid. We looked at going to Marmalada but decided it was a bit late, the crowds that @olderscot saw seemed to be streaming back to Arabba. We stopped for a sandwich piste side and did a couple of runs around there which were in good nick. (You get some strange looks when having a picnic by the side of a piste). I got in trouble with my wife for avoiding a black which resulted in us having to climb up to get the Arabba fly, why didn’t they put that lower down with the other lifts stations ? Sad
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@luigi, re your upcoming trip. We found long queues for lift passes so if your accommodation picks them up it’s definitely worth doing. It was frustrating as we bought online but at Corvara couldn’t collect at a machine and still had to queue. We didn’t queue twice because we thought it was a one off ‘just bad timing’ but had to relent and join one in the end.


Thanks for the heads-up! snowHead
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Hi all - we're heading out to Arabba on Saturday for half term for what will be the 2nd time staying around the Sella Ronda (last time we were in Val Gardena side).

Does anyone have any recommendations for how to spend a day skiing in Cortina D'Ampezzo? It is feasible to ski to Armentarola first thing, get a taxi to the bottom of Armentarola and ski all the way, or better to just get a taxi out from Arabba (if so - how much would it cost?). As a family we are quite quick skiers, so can cover ground fast, although i'm worried about half term lift queues. All wisdom gratefully received!
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Hi all - we're heading out to Arabba on Saturday for half term for what will be the 2nd time staying around the Sella Ronda (last time we were in Val Gardena side).

Does anyone have any recommendations for how to spend a day skiing in Cortina D'Ampezzo? It is feasible to ski to Armentarola first thing, get a taxi to the bottom of Armentarola and ski all the way, or better to just get a taxi out from Arabba (if so - how much would it cost?). As a family we are quite quick skiers, so can cover ground fast, although i'm worried about half term lift queues. All wisdom gratefully received!


I presume you meant to type "get a taxi to the bottom of Lagazoui" ( from Armentarola)? Yes it's possible to do that, from the bottom of Lagazoui (i.e Passo Falzarego) you can ski across to you bottom of Cinque Torri ( there's a few flat sections which involve some poling and schussing where possible) and from the bottom of Cinque Torri you take the brand new gondola link that takes 13 minutes to get you to the slopes of Cortina. Alternatively if you wanted to maximize your time in Cortina you could as you say start the day with a taxi all the way from Arabba to Cortina (or possibly Cinque Torri if that's a bit cheaper), ski for some time in Cortina then get the new gondola back to Cinque Torri, go up to the top at Averau then part way down the rear side of Cinque Torri turn right for the Croda Negra chair that allows you to get to Passo Falzarego, take the cable car to the top of Lagazoui then ski the hidden valley, getting a taxi from the second restaurant (Capana Alpina) direct to the San Cassiano gondola (cost €4 per person) which cuts out the delay of waiting for the horse tow (now €3!) and subsequent poling. snowHead
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Hi all - we're heading out to Arabba on Saturday for half term for what will be the 2nd time staying around the Sella Ronda (last time we were in Val Gardena side).

Does anyone have any recommendations for how to spend a day skiing in Cortina D'Ampezzo? It is feasible to ski to Armentarola first thing, get a taxi to the bottom of Armentarola and ski all the way, or better to just get a taxi out from Arabba (if so - how much would it cost?). As a family we are quite quick skiers, so can cover ground fast, although i'm worried about half term lift queues. All wisdom gratefully received!


I presume you meant to type "get a taxi to the bottom of Lagazoui" ( from Armentarola)? Yes it's possible to do that, from the bottom of Lagazoui (i.e Passo Falzarego) you can ski across to you bottom of Cinque Torri ( there's a few flat sections which involve some poling and schussing where possible) and from the bottom of Cinque Torri you take the brand new gondola link that takes 13 minutes to get you to the slopes of Cortina. Alternatively if you wanted to maximize your time in Cortina you could as you say start the day with a taxi all the way from Arabba to Cortina (or possibly Cinque Torri if that's a bit cheaper), ski for some time in Cortina then get the new gondola back to Cinque Torri, go up to the top at Averau then part way down the rear side of Cinque Torri turn right for the Croda Negra chair that allows you to get to Passo Falzarego, take the cable car to the top of Lagazoui then ski the hidden valley, getting a taxi from the second restaurant (Capana Alpina) direct to the San Cassiano gondola (cost €4 per person) which cuts out the delay of waiting for the horse tow (now €3!) and subsequent poling. snowHead


Thanks! Yes..did mean Lagazoui. What would be the total travel time (roughly, in half term assuming setting off close to first lift) to get to Cortina skiing via Armentarola/Cinque Torri? Trying to weigh up whether a taxi out and then ski back might be the best option to maximise time in Cortina for minimum cost.

Is it easy to get a taxi from Capana Alpina? Did the horse tow last holiday and whilst it's a novelty I wasn't overly enamoured with the whole rigmarole
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The biggest queue is likely to be at Armentarola for the taxi or bus up to the laguzoi lift...

Even if you are on first lifts from Arabba to ski to Armentarola its still probably an hour to get there ? By which time the wait could be quite long....
Then you still need to ski down to Baiti Bai des dones and get the new gondola to Cortina.
You might not get there until late morning and will be constantly wondering about when to set off back .

It might be better to get a taxi directly from Arabba at say 8 AM ? It takes about 35 mins in good weather ? Might be expensive.
Drop you at carpark at bottom of Socrepes lift (Roncato on 3D map?). Next to chalet Tofane
You could time it to arrive there for first lift to maximise the time on Cortina

Stick to that side - Tofana and Pomedes (not done other side of Cortina but seems like a schlep across town for a smaller area).

Get new lift over to cinque torri and have lunch at rifugio Averau. ski back to Laguzoi . Then hidden valley run and quick dash back to Arabba on skis!
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The biggest queue is likely to be at Armentarola for the taxi or bus up to the laguzoi lift...

Even if you are on first lifts from Arabba to ski to Armentarola its still probably an hour to get there ? By which time the wait could be quite long....
Then you still need to ski down to Baiti Bai des dones and get the new gondola to Cortina.
You might not get there until late morning and will be constantly wondering about when to set off back .

It might be better to get a taxi directly from Arabba at say 8 AM ? It takes about 35 mins in good weather ? Might be expensive.
Drop you at carpark at bottom of Socrepes lift (Roncato on 3D map?). Next to chalet Tofane
You could time it to arrive there for first lift to maximise the time on Cortina

Stick to that side - Tofana and Pomedes (not done other side of Cortina but seems like a schlep across town for a smaller area).

Get new lift over to cinque torri and have lunch at rifugio Averau. ski back to Laguzoi . Then hidden valley run and quick dash back to Arabba on skis!


Thanks. This sounds like a plan! Having done the Armentarola taxi queue last time I was there for the hidden valley I am keen to avoid snowHead
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Is it easy to get a taxi from Capana Alpina? Did the horse tow last holiday and whilst it's a novelty I wasn't overly enamoured with the whole rigmarole


Yes they normally like a minimum of I think 4 people in a taxi from there, if your group is smaller you may be able to share with others. There's often a series of taxis coming and going from there, but if not the phone number of the taxi service is prominently displayed.
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Has anyone flown to Italy with BA recently? Trying to check in and they want us to upload Covid test and health declaration form…what the *** is that?? Do they mean passenger locator form? Italian ministry of health says no health declaration form needed!!!
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Trying to check in and they want us to upload Covid test and health declaration form…what the *** is that?? Do they mean passenger locator form? Italian ministry of health says no health declaration form needed!!!


Yep, the BA online digital check-in is a right pigs ear! Some people managed to register, some didn't, some managed to get their boarding passes without registering. On my BA flight on Saturday 22nd January they were giving out their own health declaration form on the aircraft for everyone to fill in. I believe people flying out a week later said they were no longer doing that...

If you're unable to check in online you can always check-in at the airport, when I did that the check-in agent asked nothing about vaccination status or health declaration forms.....
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@ma94jcg, You could skip the hidden valley and get a taxi back from the Pass to San Cassiano. You might be able to book it on the way up, or at least get a card with a number. Would save a fair bit of time that you could spend in Cortina.

Allow about 40 minutes to get back to Arabba, via Compolongo, add another 20 it you get dropped back in Armentarola.
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We are planning on doing that cortina trip from Corvara…head off first lift, hopefully at falzarego in about an hour, quick nip down to cinque torre (I love CT) then go on exciting new lift!

If you do go to cortina AVOID the restaurant at the top of the 26 cable car - worst service I have ever had in any ski restaurant!
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Oh and if you do the super 8 route back from cinque torre to falzarego watch out for the uphill in the middle of the red run 92
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Beautiful day in Corvara and Val Gardena today, not a cloud in the sky. This morning conditions were great, this afternoon anywhere in the sun was sticky as it’s quite warm again.

We did the Saaslong World Cup run into St Cristiana around 12 and it was absolutely perfect. (If you like grippy snow without too many lumps and bumps Very Happy ) The run from Seceda down to Ortisei suffered a bit from the warm weather but nothing too drastic, probably best done in the morning. Pistes are noticeably worse when you get on the SR, of course you have more people both causing wear and stress Sad

Forecast is for some colder days so am looking forward to them. Everywhere was lovely and white a few days ago but the last couple of warm days mean that anywhere in the sun has lost its snow.
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