 Poster: A snowHead
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parlor, My list, which was based on a SCGB list, is very similar to yours. I'll use your good idea re the zip ties - really obvious when you think about it. After noticably benefiting from proper powder baskets on my poles in Utah I've now added a spare basket to my list.
JT, I agree re pack size. I could squeeze my stuff in a 20L but much prefer the feel of a 'slighty compressed' load in my 28L.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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parlor, why do you carry a knee brace? Mate I must admit you do sound like a belt and braces kind of chap! Do you carry the same list when spring skiing in a t-shirt and kilt?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Like fatbob says... sort of changes depending where you are...
In Oz (similar to USA) in resort opened areas are patrolled so you can go off-piste with little risk... then there is outside resort... which could really be broken into "frontcountry" and backcountry...
for backcountry this is a packing list... http://wiki.ski.com.au/wiki/index.php/Backcountry_Checklist
Front country(easily accessed areas - so they could come and get you fastish)... I usually have water/compass/map/whistle/shells/thermals(whatever I'm not wearing) and a small firstaid kit(spaceblanket etc)...
exposure is abig risk... as is getting lost!
Must learn to build snow shelters soon!!! (and to navigate better)
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David Murdoch, I was a boy scout 
1 x ACL and 1 x MCL, different ski accidents, same knee, is the main reason. I don't wear the brace all the time when I ski but I like to know it's there should my knee get a little tired. In three years of carrying it all the time I've only warn it twice myself. There are a few others that have been pleased it's in my pack though. Mrs P tore an MCL last year, by turning the hinged supports upside down it makes a great splint that helped keep her knee protected during a 30 minute sled / lift / ambulance ride.
There are days when I won't carry all of that list... trying to kill myself in the park, BBQ's but actually for spring skiing sure, still packing the pack. I'd never ski in a t-shirt either, minimum base and paclite. Skiing in a kilt on skis over 90mm is not permitted.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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parlor, aye, laddie, skiing in a kilt on skis is always permitted...
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I understand that for skiing in "avalanche terrain" the best option is the KNOWLEDGE, then is the gear..... I don't remember the name, but there's a man in Utah that does backcountry every day, in winter of course (about 150-180 days....sorry I d'ont remember..), and doesn't carry any avy gear!!
When I remember...I'll post the link.
And about backpacks?? Which brand do you use normally? Are all backcountry focused packs ok?
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| AlTom wrote: |
And about backpacks?? Which brand do you use normally? Are all backcountry focused packs ok? |
yes so long as they carry everything securely
i'm looking into one of the black diamond ones with an avalung built in for next season though
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AlTom,
You'll surprised how many locals don't. On the basis that if they thought it was dangerous they wouldn't go there..!!
I've come across this view before.
Maybe make sure they are hydration compatible...
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| JT wrote: |
Maybe make sure they are hydration compatible... |
i'm almost at the end of my tether with hydration systems - they seem to hydrate the contents of my pack more than me 
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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JT, mine usually empties itself all over the contents of my pack before I even get it out of the car!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I carry similar Backpack contents to JT, & parlor, - mainly to cover worst case scenario of having to spend a night out in the mountain. Certain incidents which I witnessed/participated in the past, especially for big off-piste days, have led me to add a GPS and radio to the list. Contact with emergency services and ability to give them exact location is crucial IMO. (eg.Skier with badly broken leg on Bellcote North Face - helicopter only extract possible for immobile casualty on this route. one person in my group had GPS another had radio. No mobile signal possible.)
In addition, outside the 'Backpack' - this year I did a 4-day First Aid course & a 2-day 'Wilderness Module' as my skills were woefully inadequate. I must post some feedback from this on the First Aid topic.
I aslo carried a spare basket as normal, but following a snowHeads (who shall remain nameless) 'pulverization & complete annihilation' of a pole, mid off-piste day, I now carry a telescopic pole in pack as well. (The said snowHead performed gracefully, post pole incident, by switching the remaining sound pole between hands on EACH turn, through all terrain - Formidable! - my skills in this regard would probably be found wanting and possibly very amusing to others, hence spare pole  )
I must say though, the best & most used object carried, was a roll of 2" duck tape.
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Packs have different capabilities for off piste use. Mine is about 30 litres, it has one big compartment with two zips that allow it to be fully opened, shovel and probe store in the flap.. At the end of my last season's skiing I had my skis attached to the side straps as I was walking up a mountain (it felt like I was walking up the whole mountain, but the map says I only went up a few hundred metres from 2612 to 2930). Unfortunately, as I was near the top of a steeper section, the zips worked their way down and my pack emptied itself. Some of the contents wandered off to the bottom of that little slope. Hm! Luckily someone else was kind enough to veer off of their route and collect my kit.
Plan for the future. Eyes in the back of my head to keep an eye on the zips.
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You know it makes sense.
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BernardC, Was that the incident I remember? I'm sure I caught sight of the fabled pole swithing on the odd occasions where I managed to extract my head from various piles of snow.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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