 Poster: A snowHead
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I'm looking for great carving boards with wide waists around the 26cm mark because I keep booting out with my current board that has a 25cm waist width.
The main problem is I'm a short guy and weigh 60kg but have size 9 feet annoyingly - so both my toes and heel are hanging out on most boards for my weight class (around the 150-155cm length) since their waists are usually around the 24.5cm waist width mark.
I'm looking for directional twins or true twin boards. The only solution I've got so far on my list is to get Knapton Doneks and get them shipped all the way from the US and I've got a trip coming up in less than two weeks!
The other on my list is Defenders of Awesome (DOA) as they do 155W that has a 25.8cm waist width.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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The K2 Instrument in a 157 will give you a 26 waist. Tried one at the Oktobertest a couple of years ago and they were a nice responsive ride - a lot like my older Flagship, from when they were stiffer.
TBH if you're willing to drop the DT/TT then the market opens up for you quite a bit for stubby wide boards. The K2 Excavator (if you can find one), Jones Hovercraft or Salomon Dancehaul are the money boards when it comes to groomer carving.
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first of all, are you 100% sure that the boots are not too big for your feet?
Size 9 in UK or US?
First you have to check your MP of your feet.
Then if the boots are the appropriate check the outer sole lenght of the boots. For UK 9 must be around 30 till 31
That means you nead a bord with mind. 26 WW or 27 WW if you want deep eurocarving
But 1st : check the lengt of your feet
Maybe Amplid Dada? Something von Korua?
There are many with 26.0 or bit more WW...you dont need to buy from Donek
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Jones Ultra Mountain Twin in 156W?
I would stay away from a true twin if your focus is on carving. Having a set back stance is going to make carving more stable.
If you are willing to go more directional then you can get something like a Nidecker Mellow in 150W
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Start with your boots dood. Make sure they are correct as prev pointed out. If they are, some brands have a reduced footprint so would be smaller in size so that helps massively.
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Thanks for all the replies so far. It looks like I need to go the directional twin route - reason I like twins is I find riding switch easy, and enjoy buttering a lot on top of carving. Also means that throughout the day I'm exerting equal amounts of effort shared between the lead and back foot.
I've got two boots and both have significant overhang from the edges when looked from the side. One is even half a size lower than the other one which I bought via a fitted boot service (I'm a size 9 UK for reference). I also tried my mate's Burton step ons last season and eded up with a bottoming out problem. I can go a boot size lower as a desperate attempt - but I'd rather my toes not fall off.
I'm going to have to create an excel spreadsheet this evening with all the great suggestions so far!
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| leepox wrote: |
| ... Also means that throughout the day I'm exerting equal amounts of effort shared between the lead and back foot. ... |
Sounds like you may not be riding centred.
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Stance is centred on the board, it's my weight distribution through my legs when I ride that is 60 front-40 rear.
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GNU Rider Choice 155W ... Cost a few bob though
(I keep recommending this board because it is good)
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@rayscoops, surely you'd want some proper camber for a "great carving board"?
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That GNU certainly has the right dimensions! Shame it's a rocker.. although reviews state it can carve well enough!
I just found came accross amplid Dada in one of Malcom's videos, it's looking like everything I'm looking for a board! - but there is no stock anywhere in the UK... and it seems like it only comes in one size from what I can find - 154cm but has a rider weight of 65kg+.. and 27.5 waist width might be a little too wide no?
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@leggyblonde, not really, the little bit of rocker between the bindings has little impact when you aggressively flex the board in a turn (or just bend and push your knees out), and then of you hit the turn with a bit of knee bend the magnatraction kicks in ... it really is a unique board
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Korua otto? marketing blurb makes it sound like the right fit.
Haven’t ridden one but I got a pencil a couple of months ago and really enjoyed it for a few end of season days - no boot out on a 164 with US12 feet - fun to carve.
Also WRT yes boards - I snapped a well used two year old optimistic back in October and yes warrantied it no questions asked. Because there was no stock in the country they gave me my money back - hence the new korua.
Really impressed with that.
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You know it makes sense.
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Seeing as @Richard_Sideways mentioned the Salomon Dancehaul, on the off-chance you're near Tamworth, The Snowboard Asylum at the Snowdome had two different sizes of that as a demo boards when I was last there in October I think.
I realise this is the second post in quick succession where I've mentioned them, and I've mentioned them before, but I genuinely have no affiliation with them, just an appreciation of what they offer, even if I'm too cheap to buy a board from them.
Although I did get a nice new (massively reduced) Picture jacket when I was in there then. And that wasn't a kickback for me suggesting them.
Come to think of it though, I think my sister's partner has one and was thinking of getting rid, so could also ask what size he's got if you were interested.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I'm short and 65kg and I ride a Dupraz D1 5'2" (same size as me), it has the effective edge of a 148 yet it has a wide waist width. It carves like a dream and holds an edge better than any board I've ever ridden. It's quite a lot underfoot though so I have just ordered a Salomon Dancehaul 143 to compliment it with, I've gone for 143 as I want it more for playing on piste and sidehits, the Dupraz is my bombing, carving, powder board. True twin is so boring, try something different.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Just want to update everyone... I ended up borrowing Amplid UNW8 from my mate before I pull the trigger as my trip is only a few days away. It's not as wide as I hope but it's got the right characteristics that I'm looking for in a board
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Hope you have fun wherever you're off to, @leepox 
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I believe that UNW8 is a firmer flexing board......something like a custom X .
In other words its not a twin design torsionally or longitudinally .
Donek twins are special designs from a hardboard specialist .
Knapton himself has to be physically training specifically for his snowboarding with a high level of commitment where as those doing a week or two on euro hols are not .
I would test out different boot angles for the board your riding but different angles may not work out or feel ok so you will need a wide board in a short lenght.
Its doubtful just going stiffer is the answer although on clean empty pistes firmflex can be great fun .
Except feb in europe.... those empty low angle pistes are not going to happen
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Hi all, wanted to update as I'm on my last day of snowboarding. The UNW8 has been an awesome carver and likes to be ridden aggressively... great for bombing down runs... but as already pointed out, it's a directional board which meant I got bored of it after day 2. It's just about wide enough to do deep carves (I can just about feel the toes drag) but I needed a more mellow board that can be ridden lazily....
One of the shops I visited suggested I try the Ride Twinpig as they had one in stock although it's the 151 rather than the 148 which I think will suit me better. It's a basic board tech wise compared to the Amplid, but for some reason it's giving me a more predictable ride perhaps due to familiarity with my older twin boards. But most importantly it's giving me the waist width for my big feet to really lean into turns. I've tried it on groomers, end of day mangled up pistes, slush, off piste, (sadly no fresh pow) and black/red moguls (by accident rather than choice) and actually had a blast with it and most importantly, haven't experienced any booting out! I've most likely found what I am looking for now and add it to my quiver. Only item left out on my list to try is the Yes Uninc Greats which my brother has just bought and will borrow it on my trip at the end of March.
Ahh, I wish there were more volume shifted boards on the market!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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In terms of volume shifted twins, you could look at the Jones Mind Expander Twin. The 154 has a width of 26cm
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Check out the unidirectional Swoard. A wide board designed for carving. If you're careful you can still ride switch for short stretches, but not at high speed (without risking cartwheels).
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