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Jungfrau Ski region pt. 2

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Regular visitors to the Jungfrau region will know that for several years the Top4 season pass has been offered which covers Jungfrau region, Adelboden-Lenk, Meiringen-Hasliberg and Gstaad. Last season the early purchase price was CHF850. However last year Gstaad announced that next season they would be withdrawing from the arrangement, so for next season the Top4 skipass is no more.

Instead a new skipass has been launched called AlpsPass. This will cover Jungfrau ski region, Adelboden-Lenk, Aletsch Arena and Engelberg-Titlis. The early purchase price will be CHF949.

Interestingly this year at least it also includes nine free days of skiing in the top ski areas of Klosters, Arosa Lenzerheide and Laax for the 2025/2026 season - three days per ski area, which you can choose freely.

Also in an email in German I received from Top4 it said that (translated) "Meiringen-Hasliberg will inform you about the next steps at a later date." So the status of Meiringen-Hasliberg and which multi-region season pass it will be in (if at all) is currently unclear....
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Thanks for posting this Smile

The new pass includes a lot of interesting and big ski areas, but they're very widely spaced across at least 4 separate areas - difficult to take advantage of all of them.
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denfinella wrote:
Thanks for posting this Smile

The new pass includes a lot of interesting and big ski areas, but they're very widely spaced across at least 4 separate areas - difficult to take advantage of all of them.


If you have a car with you it makes things a bit easier of course. Quite tempting to have a road trip to Switzerland and check out some of the new locations on offer.... Very Happy
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BBC article mentions Wengen: Switzerland targets rich tourists but at what cost?
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denfinella wrote:
Thanks for posting this Smile

The new pass includes a lot of interesting and big ski areas, but they're very widely spaced across at least 4 separate areas - difficult to take advantage of all of them.


Probably aimed at Zurich / Lucerne / Bern residents for weekend skiing
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Heading to wengen on Thursday until Monday.

We were spoiled at new year with a big dump but it’s looking very sunny this week.

Anyone out there at the moment able to comment on conditions? Is the eiger/grindelwald side north facing?
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Alastair Pink wrote:
BBC article mentions Wengen: Switzerland targets rich tourists but at what cost?


Interesting article and definitely fair to say Switzerland is not trying to compete on cost. From our pre Xmas Wengen trip most things are a step up in cost, e.g. lift passes, ski hire etc. than most other European ski resorts with the exception of places like Courchevel, Val D'Isere, Megève etc. Our accommodation and transport, if booked early, were actually not too bad.

I think the Wengen tourist board bod is probably somewhat right, for the Jungfrau region at least, that there aren't so many people there to flaunt their wealth. Had a long weekend in Megève at the end of January and the number of fur coated and Prada hand bagged punters promenading was eye opening! Shocked
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@youngun85, while the weather is ridiculously dry ( no snow or rain) the piste conditions are super.
I skied Winteregg and Schiltgrat (Mürren) this morning and all pistes were great.
In answer to your specific question the east side of Kleine Scheidegg beneath Eiger is east, n.east facing, it will have been very chilly in there this morning.
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Rogerdodger wrote:
@youngun85, while the weather is ridiculously dry ( no snow or rain) the piste conditions are super.
I skied Winteregg and Schiltgrat (Mürren) this morning and all pistes were great.
In answer to your specific question the east side of Kleine Scheidegg beneath Eiger is east, n.east facing, it will have been very chilly in there this morning.


Thanks very much for replying and alleviating some concerns!
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BBC article on Mürren: https://www.bbc.co.uk/travel/article/20250314-murren-the-stunning-car-free-village-reached-by-cable-car
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Alastair Pink wrote:
BBC article on Mürren: https://www.bbc.co.uk/travel/article/20250314-murren-the-stunning-car-free-village-reached-by-cable-car


They have used a stock picture from Alamy of Gimmelwald stating it is of Mürren rolling eyes
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How are the conditions holding up? We arrive on Thursday!
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lynnecha wrote:
How are the conditions holding up? We arrive on Thursday!


where?
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Chris Brookes wrote:
lynnecha wrote:
How are the conditions holding up? We arrive on Thursday!


where?

staying in Grindlewald but we tend to move around quite a lot as we're there for two weeks. Usually ski in Wengen and First - not Murren so much.
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lynnecha wrote:
Chris Brookes wrote:
lynnecha wrote:
How are the conditions holding up? We arrive on Thursday!


where?

staying in Grindlewald but we tend to move around quite a lot as we're there for two weeks. Usually ski in Wengen and First - not Murren so much.


Conditions are ok, just head up high!
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Chris Brookes wrote:
lynnecha wrote:
Chris Brookes wrote:
lynnecha wrote:
How are the conditions holding up? We arrive on Thursday!


where?

staying in Grindlewald but we tend to move around quite a lot as we're there for two weeks. Usually ski in Wengen and First - not Murren so much.


Conditions are ok, just head up high!


thanks
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Very quiet excellent spring conditions,the season has been good from.the start to now
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Hello all, anyone there right now? Arriving in Wengen this weekend and hoping for some nice snow higher up? Puzzled
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cheabb78 wrote:
Hello all, anyone there right now? Arriving in Wengen this weekend and hoping for some nice snow higher up? Puzzled


Snow is fine before lunch at the moment, and the forecast is colder with snow this weekend. It looks like you’re in luck Very Happy
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Thanks for your reply, just what I hoped to hear Laughing
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On Mannlichen at present there are so few up here we have introduced ourselves to each other!!!!!!
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Still good morning skiing at Kleine Scheidegg. Männlichen closing this weekend, along with most hotels in Wengen.



It’s very warm, +15 in Wengen this afternoon. Very few people around, no queues at all anywhere.



Valley runs back to Wengen and Grindelwald still open.
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2nd year in a row the winter season has been a weird one, only 2 big snow dumps this season and very little in between.
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Very much the same across the Northern Alps
On Schilthorn and Kleine Scheidegg open for another few weeks
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Alastair Pink wrote:
Regular visitors to the Jungfrau region will know that for several years the Top4 season pass has been offered which covers Jungfrau region, Adelboden-Lenk, Meiringen-Hasliberg and Gstaad. Last season the early purchase price was CHF850. However last year Gstaad announced that next season they would be withdrawing from the arrangement, so for next season the Top4 skipass is no more.

Instead a new skipass has been launched called AlpsPass. This will cover Jungfrau ski region, Adelboden-Lenk, Aletsch Arena and Engelberg-Titlis. The early purchase price will be CHF949.

Interestingly this year at least it also includes nine free days of skiing in the top ski areas of Klosters, Arosa Lenzerheide and Laax for the 2025/2026 season - three days per ski area, which you can choose freely.


Update: it now seems that the bonus offer of three days per ski area in Davos-Klosters, Arosa Lenzerheide and Laax has been extended to include Portes du Soleil and Verbier 4Vallées, making a total now of fifteen days free skiing. : https://en.alpspass.ski/#areas
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Daily Express report of a British skier killed while skiing down from Kleine Scheidegg towards Grindelwald.

The report is most confusing as it mentions the Reichenbach Falls which is nowhere near Grindelwald. Puzzled
Has anyone local got more accurate information?

Edit: The report in the Mirror is even more confusing as it says " He was on an authorised run from the 6,800-foot-high Kleine Scheidegg pass when he suddenly lost control and plunged into Rychenbach Falls - which famously features in Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's 'The Final Problem' as the spot where Sherlock Holmes confronts his arch-nemesis, Professor Moriarty."
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My information from friends living over there. @Alastair Pink,
Chap was skiing down "22" towards Brandegg. The piste narrows onto the forest road, here there is an open stream/ditch/brook. My understanding is that he fell and landed in the brook. The cause of death could have been from the fall or conceivable he may have drowned.
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@Rogerdodger, thanks, that makes a lot more sense than "he plunged into the Reichenbach Falls"!
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A Swiss and Austrian climbing pair have shattered the speed record for completing the daunting north faces of a famed trio of Swiss mountains - the Eiger, Mönch and Jungfrau.

Switzerland's Nicolas Hojac and Austria's Philipp Brugger shaved nearly ten hours off the previous record set more than two decades ago, climbing all 3 mountains in a total time of 15 hours 30mins! Shocked
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Enormous snowfall, 77cm up top overnight, still snowing. Entire area closed, avi level 4.

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Always an event in April @telford_mike,
The temperature must have come right down from initial forecast?
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@Rogerdodger, definitely no skinning up the railway track at the moment.

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Empty pistes for Easter Monday but lovely Spring skiing on Kleine Scheidegg
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Final weekend in the Kleine Scheidegg area conditions holding up well
All pistes from Eigergletscher still open and wixi red pistes still open
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When travelling to the Jungfrau region I've quite often flown into Basel then taken the Deutsche Bahn train that originates from North Germany and via Basel goes on all the way to Interlaken Ost. However I see that Swiss railways have suspended Deutsche Bahn trains due to chronic delays Shocked

As of Tuesday, April 29th, two Deutsche Bahn (DB) routes that had previously terminated further inside Switzerland are now set to end near the German-Swiss border.

DB's EuroCity (EC) 7 service from Hamburg to Interlaken Ost, and the EC 9 service from Dortmund to Zurich, will now terminate in the city of Basel.

The decision was made by Swiss Federal Railways (SBB) to mitigate the impact of chronically late-running DB trains on the Swiss network. In comparison with ultra-punctual Swiss trains, the German operator had been regularly undermining the German reputation for efficiency.

Hopefully SBB will be running more trains of their own to replace the Basel-Interlaken Ost ones that used DB.
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Arrived back in the Oberland last night after a few weeks in the UK. Wengen is in fine fettle.



Hotels Braunbaer and Victoria Lauberhorn are open now, along with the Crystal bar. By next weekend just about everything else in the village will be open. Männlichen cable car opens on the 24th, but there’s a lot of snow up there so hiking at altitude will be a bit limited for the time being.
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The news that thousands of British visitors to the region have been waiting for.
From Jungfrau zeitung, Männlichen chairlift to be refurbed.......Tschuggen t -bar to be replaced with a chairlift!!
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The news that thousands of British visitors to the region have been waiting for.
From Jungfrau zeitung, Männlichen chairlift to be refurbed.......Tschuggen t -bar to be replaced with a chairlift!!


That'll completely change the dynamics of the area. At the moment it’s one-way traffic from Männlichen round to Scheidegg at lunchtime.
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The article was very brief and did not indicate any dates. No mention was made of the development to Firstbahn in Grindelwald, bringing the bottom station down to the land adjacent the main station.
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