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 Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Understandable x
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 Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Understandable,
Different being at ground-zero when tragedy strikes - easy to comment reading about it on a forum.
Take care, ski safe everyone
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@Steve Angus, fair enough
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@Steve Angus, very sad day for Val D'Isere. Take care.
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| NoMapNoCompass wrote: |
| In the Manchet valley by all accounts - what the hell?! |
I have serious concerns about entering Manchet valley from top of Cugnai or Madeleine at low risk levels let alone at high. The whole face gets so much sun and in general seems so unstable that there’s always an extra level of risk there imo. Almost every time I’ve skied it I’ve encountered and had to ski over avalanche debris on the run out. On occasions over the last 20 or so years I’ve disagreed with a guide’s recommendation to try it and (as much as I hate walking) suggested walking up, mountain left, and skiing back down to Cugnai. Nowadays I just refuse to ski it whatever the conditions. As you say ‘what the hell’ were they doing there yesterday. Sad, but that level of exposure was crazy.
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@NoMapNoCompass, is there a written synopsis?
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@holidayloverxx, Not a lot that’s new news, some fancy graphics and a statement about a lot of the slope being greater than 30 degs.
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Down day
I slept well last night thankfully and the sleeping pill certainly helped!
The kids were out the door at a decent time to get to skiing and Clare was on a chalet start so that just left me and the MIL at home. I took my normal Sunday eggs on toast treat a day early as im working all day tomorrow. It was a very lazy start to the day.
With cricket and Mens GS from the Olympics both on TV to watch it was a bit of a sport fest for a couple of hours - lovely stuff.
I headed into town about 1130 with the MIL as we were meeting up with the kids after their morning skiing for lunch at the Sun Bar. By now the clouds had rolled in a little and there was a slight breeze... the promised snow flurries did arrive this evening and we should have some freshies by the morning!
Bit of a slap up lunch followed and then Olivia and the MIL headed into town for a spot of shopping - nothing serious just a general potter mainly.... that meant Ben and I had about 90 mins to kill before the pm Club for him restarted (Olivia was only doing 1/2 a day obviously). So he did a little bit of bum boarding as I brought that with me but he decided he wanted to ski a little... so I was happy to let him do a lap on the Rogoney but then he was bored with that so next up he did a couple of laps on the Bellevarde chair.... I was proud Dad watching him tackle the bumps and choppy snow coming down the Face. I could spot him top to bottom in case something happening and I also told the liftie I was at the bottom in case he had a little accident getting on / off the lift too!
So after he restarted club at 1400 I headed home and did a few jobs before Olivia etc got home.
It was a relaxed afternoon all in all thats for sure and when Ben was back from Club we played a board game and that was all before Clare got home from work!
Tomorrow the weather should be good for most of the day and im off piste all day with a 20 year old (think it was). And then the fun and games will start (again) with a big old storm rolling in tomorrow night and most of Monday - a lot more snow is forecast once again.
What a pretty chilled day it has been before it all kicks off for another week. In other news Clares brother and family all rolled into town this evening - what a long day it was for them and our kids will be spending the day with their cousins tomorrow - they cant wait! Clare and I are working all day so the MIL is in charge of the kids outside of their skiing time with their cousins!
TTFN
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How lovely to have all the family descend, Steve. Hope you all have a great time!
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Hiya Steve.
Thanks for posting even when you don't feel like it. Hope you and yours are all ok. Sometimes living the dream is a bit harder than you expect, but that's life. Love to all of you there. Hope to see you soon.
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@Steve Angus, just wondered, accepting you were off piste much of the day, how busy did things seem around the area to you?
Given it was the first day of half term, lift queues, crowdedness on piste, mountain restaurants etc? Crazy skiing and riding??
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Hi guys - very occasional poster but active reader in the pre ski season, thanks for all the updates Steve I love reading you, that’s my warm up!
Arrived with the uk crowd on Saturday, I found it was not that bad yesterday! Bit of queues on some lifts at some point but nothing crazy, some busy slopes but also some quiet ones (even had several empty ones in the 1-3pm window). With the sun out was pretty decent!
Today… we shall see indeed
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@Steve Angus, that's a fabulous, but very sobering read.
I fear that Ziann Ziann may not be well.
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@Steve Angus, that must have been very upsetting news for you. I'm so sorry.
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any thoughts on what year that pic was taken of Val ?
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It would be 1935-ish I'd guess, give or take a few years
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@Steve Angus,
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Finally for this evening I have just found out that one of the people that died last week was a client of mine!
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Very sad and now personal for you. R.I.P.
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PeakyB - "how busy" - yea you could tell it was half term thats for sure; "lift queues" - where I personally think you notice it most - usual suspects like Glacier chair - busy; "mountain restaurants" - again you need to get your timings right if you want to avoid a lot of standing around!
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Thanks, as I thought. I had an option to come out next week but will leave it until 7 March onwards when it should've calmed down. Save me some snow
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Frosty the Snowman - yea id like to think so! Nutter!
KSH - thank you - yea quite a shock really
Charlie333 - no idea but sounds like NoMapNoCompass might be about right
PeakyB - thank you and yes give it a while - im sure there will be plenty of snow for you still! Another storm coming in Thursday!
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Snowy & windy
It was a little bit like groundhog day this morning but the weather was worse than yesterday. It had obviously snowed all night and the wind had been howling! It was obviously going to be a tricky one trying to get the best of the snow but avoiding the wind and closures and trying to think about where the hordes would go and crucially when!
The road into Tignes had been closed for a while because of PIDA work and the roads to Fornet and other area of town were under restrictions too! Anyway we decided to meet as usual and knew it was going to be less options than yesterday!
Ben was off skiing this morning, Olivia had her training cancelled and Clare could not get to her chalet meet as the Carrats area was closed to pedestrians. So I was the only one out the door for 0900 start. Everyone was dead on time and we started with a lap on the Village BUT being day 2 for many people they are a lot more on it time wise so by about 0901 it was starting to get busy! By the time we were coming down we were keeping an eye on our 'networks' e.g. WhatsApp groups, best guess as to where people would head to etc. Also there is the consideration of where the kids (and parents) might wish to ski (or not as the case may be!) and what might open and when! Through one of our French colleagues they got the heads up that Olympic would be closed all day and nothing in Fornet etc would open... with the wind as it was it would mean that stuff up high would also be closed!
Me and one of the other instructors took a tactical and bussed it to La Daille.... we were due to have lunch down La Daille anyway! The worst that would happen is that we would have the drag lift in La Daille and the best is we would arrive and the gondola would open in front of us... so we got to the bus station and there was still no sign on the app indicating an eta for La Daille gondola opening up! So we did a Lanches drag a couple of times before other instructors got the same idea... it was a good chance to work on some slow speed drills.... but then the La Daille gondola opened up so we dropped straight on - faced the wind at the top before quickly turning our backs on it and enjoying amazing snow down to La Daille. In fact we were so early we had the Diebold to ourselves. At least the vis was OK. We did it quickly as we knew the queues would start building at La Daille.
Anyway we managed a couple of laps before going to a DESERTED Folie for hot choc stop and after that we headed back down to La Daille. However by the time we got there we attempted to get into the queue to come back up for one more lap but unfortunately the queue was just too long! So we called it a morning and went into the Equinox for lunch! It was rammed in there but we enjoyed a wonderful lunch - I had an amazing Club (Chicken) sandwich.
As the weather outside improved ever so slightly (well its still a little up and down but its certainly better than it has been the last 24 hours or so) I thought someone would want to come out skiing but alas nobody did.... quite amazed by that tbh! So it was called a day! They got in their van back to their chalet and im sure they will all be enjoying a swim and spa / massage by now!
At home I watched with delight the news that Australia had been knocked out the cricket - amazing news! I spent half the afternoon de-neiging the balcony and roof... there was a lot of snow to get rid of thats for sure!
So im enjoying a cuppa and Clare should be home soon.
Olivia was doing indoor sport training this afternoon and Ben got to ski with his buddies and Club. Clare has just finished her days session (she got going about lunchtime in the end!) and im watching as things start to improve out there weather wise.
Tomorrow should be a decent day weather wise and then once again a storm starts to roll in late tomorrow night into Thursday eeek
In other news they are continuing to have to manage the avalanche risk etc out there and it will take a while to sort it all out in the morning! In Valloire in the Maurienne a slide has come down into part of the village and near La Grave there has been another incident too..... all been a bit of a crazy day really. At least the roads around resort and into / out of Tignes are returning to some sort of normality now too! Eeek.
TTFN
I totally forgot to snap a photo on the mountain today but this photo I snapped on the bus - just to show the mounds of snow everywhere against a threatening sky we have had for the last few days.
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Wonderful summary as usual Steve. I especially liked your comment about Australia going out of the T20. My sentiments exactly.
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Another observation is just that over the years I’ve noticed that Val hasn’t accounted for the increased beds in resort and subsequent lift queue management. And actually, they need to modernise many of the lifts to solve some of the bottle necks. Why oh why they can’t use a more logical US style queuing system is beyond me. The La Daille queue with two sides and holding people either side and having no filter that’s logical is just so bad. It’s Europe as a whole, to be fair, but it’s so stupid to not have airport style back and forth queues. All it takes is some piles and ropes before the gates and after more than one
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 And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Another observation is just that over the years I’ve noticed that Val hasn’t accounted for the increased beds in resort and subsequent lift queue management. And actually, they need to modernise many of the lifts to solve some of the bottle necks. Why oh why they can’t use a more logical US style queuing system is beyond me. The La Daille queue with two sides and holding people either side and having no filter that’s logical is just so bad. It’s Europe as a whole, to be fair, but it’s so stupid to not have airport style back and forth queues. All it takes is some piles and ropes before the gates and after more than one.
Rant over ..
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@Alex A, I’ve seen a few posts on Instagram recently from places in town stating if you’ve No ID there is No entry/drinks/beer.
As it’s european school holidays they are just being careful, your girls shouldn’t have a problem if they have a driving licence or uni id card with them.
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 You know it makes sense.
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Oh and I forget to repost this I saw earlier.... I like this (for those British ski racing fans!)
"British elite ski racing performance on the FIS Alpine World Cup tour since its inauguration in January 1967.
GB Alpine
11 x Alpine World Cup podium results
Dave Ryding holds seven Alpine World Cup medals, by far the most for any Brit, with one gold, four silver and two bronze. Divina holds two bronze medals. Konrad and Gina each hold one silver medal.
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GB Alpine
97 x Alpine World Cup results in the top ten
GBR Women, 46 top tens:
Gina Hathorn x 22
Divina Galica x 16
Chemmy Crawford-Alcott x 5
Felicity 'Bunny' Field x 2
Bridget Newall x 1
GBR Men, 51 top tens:
Dave Ryding x 33
Martin Bell x 7
Alain Baxter x 4
Laurie Taylor x 2
Jeremy Palmer-Tomlinson x 1
Konrad Bartelski x 1
Graham Bell x 1
Finlay Mickel x 1
Billy Major x 1
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Best GB Alpine male and female World Cup results across all disciplines:
Downhill
2nd Konrad, 3rd Divina
Slalom
1st Dave (Kitzbuehel 2022), 2nd Gina
Giant Slalom
5th Gina and Divina, 9th Jeremy
SuperG
11th Chemmy and Martin
Combined/SuperCombi
7th Chemmy, 9th Martin
Parallel Slalom/City Event
2nd Dave
Best GBR result in the blue riband Kitzbuehel men's downhill, 12th Graham Bell
Divina and Chemmy have top 10 results in three disciplines
Special mention to Lesley Beck, Nigel Smith, Ronald Duncan, Charlie Guest, Emma Carrick-Anderson, Charlie Raposo, John Moulder-Brown and Alex Tilley for their top 20s. (Alex Tilley with top 20 results in two disciplines.)
Hats off to Dave Ryding, the greatest British racer of all time, and to all of our star athletes for their world class careers in the sport"
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Dave Ryding really was (still is!) a special talent, what a career. Sometimes you need it written down to appreciate his amazing palmares - and all that from someone who always comes across as humble, unassuming and a general nice guy.
We salute you Dave, absolute champion!
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Still say Alain Baxter is the rightful holder of an Olympic Bronze
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Hope Dave’s talents are put to good use to inspire even more enjoyment and success in skiing!
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Wow…with that huge amount of snow and mostly clear sunny weather forecast, next week should be epic. Guess you’ll need all your tacticals to navigate the crowds though. I think Paris winter holidays start next week?
Well done to Ben for his bronze - hopefully he’ll dream about that run rather than have nightmares.
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P.S. Apparently this morning alone we have had just under 3m of snow to have fallen - blimey!
Steve, do you mean 3m overnight Thursday to Friday or 3m in the last storm system? 3m overnight would be extraordinary. It’s still an enormous amount whatever.
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@RickBoden, no that must be a mistake and/or lost in translation. 50cm in a day generally shuts down the village. Looking out of the window, I don't see how we've had 1m in a day, never mind 3.
FYI, general local chat is saying 2m in 6 days.
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PeakyB - Yes it will be lots of tactics next week and the sun shining will be welcome! Thank you re Ben - he was a very happy little boy!
RickBoden - yea I meant so far in the month of February is what I meant! Yes about 2m in the last week as Dr John says
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