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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Have you tried spot cleaning it with a drop of the neat product before putting it in the machine?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@Scarlet, Mtn Equipment said to try rubbing a wet cloth with washing up liquid onto the areas, currently in the washing machine but thought I'd see if snowheads had experienced similar.
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Try applying neat techwash and letting it sit for a while (?) before sticking in machine?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@kitenski, yeah, my trousers get filthy from leaning over the back of the filthy car (I'm quite short!). I give them a scrub at the end of the season.
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| kitenski wrote: |
| ... Mtn Equipment said to try rubbing a wet cloth with washing up liquid onto the areas, currently in the washing machine but thought I'd see if snowheads had experienced similar. |
Well I wasn't going to suggest my own solution as I've not checked it with the suppliers, but it sounds similar. My own Norrøna orange is this year's model, so post-PFAS, so there's that. I managed to collect some ugly stains whilst travelling to its first use. I wasn't sure what I should do, but I thought I ought to do it sooner rather than later. I just got the hotel soap and their make-up removal cloth and rubbed away at it until it came off. It was surprisingly effective. So that's just... soap and a cloth. The jacket seems fine, stains gone.
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Gosh, I don't know how you can be seen on the slopes with those! You could wrap it all in that stuff they ise to wrap bags at the airport.
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@ster, assuming that’s an attempt at humour?
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| phil_w wrote: |
| I just got the hotel soap and their make-up removal cloth and rubbed away at it until it came off. It was surprisingly effective. So that's just... soap and a cloth. The jacket seems fine, stains gone. |
I believe the techwash solutions are really just liquid soap, so neat product and a cloth is basically the same thing. The wool wash solutions you can get in the supermarket (e.g. Ecover Wool) are also a gentle detergent, i.e. liquid soap. Dissolved pure soap flakes will work too, but it's a bit more faffy and might need more rinses.
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| kitenski wrote: |
| @ster, assuming that’s an attempt at humour? |
I’m afraid so. You obviously take this subject more seriously.
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@kitenski, oh yeah and as suggested, a bit of scrubbing too.
But, sadly, eventually on lighter colours the grime does accumulate (also includes oils in drips from lifts, etc.)
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Cover it in ketchup and pie juice so it looks organic.
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You know it makes sense.
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And blood too.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@hang11, sounds like you need a red jacket.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@ster, flannel shirt. Hides all pie accidents, looks cool af with blood stains, and costs very little.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well my gentle rub hasn’t worked - stains still there, going for a bit more elbow grease & rewash!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I've failed many times over the years to remove such stains from light-coloured jackets, tried all of the above, resorted to using a nail-brush to scrub with soap, still never got them properly clean.
But the ski school here would take all the uniforms back at the end of the season and send them off to be dry-cleaned. There's a cleaners in the village with some sort of connection with the ski school, so they probably got a good deal, but I was surprised to find that it actually worked, came back looking brand new the second season, started to look a bit faded by the third, but then they were replaced, as that's about the expected life-span and branding/sponsorship/colours change that frequently anyway (we were part of ESI, who define some aspects of this).
So anyway, has anyone else tried dry cleaning? I know it's absolutely not recommended, but why not exactly? Oh, and no, they did not lose their waterproofness either.
Last edited by Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see? on Wed 29-04-26 17:04; edited 1 time in total
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becuase with the board and the kids , sometimes i was really really sweating, i tried many option but this kind of "dirt" was always there.
Since last year a got a hard shell from Scott, so sweating is not a problme at all, but the orange color make this stains more and more visible.
But honestly i didnt do a thing. As long as it does not smell, i dont give a Fxxk.... 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| kitenski wrote: |
| @Scarlet, Mtn Equipment said to try rubbing a wet cloth with washing up liquid onto the areas, currently in the washing machine but thought I'd see if snowheads had experienced similar. |
washing up liquid and washing machines do not mix very well (can lead to 'over foaming - shed loads of Foam) - use sparingly ......
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@Chaletbeauroc, my daughters jacket and light trousers got covered in oil from a lift in meribel, the lift company sent them off to get professionally cleaned and came back looking as new, so it's clearly possible! Just wish I knew how they do it!
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@kitenski, ....I know what you can use to remove the stains (and think I know what they used), but it does strip off the DWR. That's the dilemma.
I must say that we do live with it. DWR is more important to us than grime. Although my partner does complain about the filth on some of my ski trousers.
So what really gets it off?
1 gentle options - hair shampoo. Formulated to remove human grease. Use at a concentration which works...
2 harsh option - citrus degreaser. Some are VERY harsh, others rather milder. Choose your weapon...
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I’ve used non bio pure soap flakes in the past without a problem. Put on a low temp cycle with the flakes, then another cycle with tech wash after that to re-waterproof.
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I've got some orange arcteryx shell pants. They picked up loads of stains. I tried everything on this thread apart from citrus degreaser - and I suspect that might damage performance! My conclusion - I'll only buy black / blue-black or navy in future!
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Not mentioned, I've not tried it either, the soft green Swarfega is a relatively non aggressive cleaner that could be helpful, followed by soap flakes as a possible combination.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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@jedster, yup it's put me off buying that colour again! Wonder if pale jackets have the same issue?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@jedster, ...yep citrus degreaser is a last ditch solution.
I have some great lime green Patagonia shell trousers. They look disgusting. Black grime on all the seams. Always get grimier in the Spring segment of the season.
I have a flouro yellow Peak Performance Heli jacket. Nasty on the cuffs and periphery.
I have some light blue Heli 3L trousers. They are going the same way.
The only consolation for me is that all the guides I have travelled with have the same rime on their gear.
I do have a solution.
I have some winter camo pattern Peak Performance trousers. Gore Tex. They do not look dirty at all. They look new, even after many seasons.
I lent them to my partner after she asked to wear them.
Second lift, she was peering closely at them and sniffing them.
She said (and I cannot reproduce the tone here but imagine someone who has just discovered a maggot in their apple): "///THESE ARE DISGUSTING!!!///" (and they smell)
I cannot deny it - they look fine but in reality are vile - but only visibly vile close up.
There we have it. Wear black, brown, navy or camo.
I have an ancient Patagonia Speed Ascent jacket. Thick inner pile, welded shell outer. Incredible piece of kit. It has been worn throughout seasons and in all conditions. Cosy in the cold. Comfortable in the heat.
If you had X ray specs sensitive to the kind of grime being discussed here, then this jacket would blind you. But being black it looks fine.
I ask my partner...how does this jacket look?
Fine - why are you asking?
Case closed
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@kitenski, ....I know what you can use to remove the stains (and think I know what they used), but it does strip off the DWR. That's the dilemma.
I must say that we do live with it. DWR is more important to us than grime. Although my partner does complain about the filth on some of my ski trousers.
So what really gets it off?
1 gentle options - hair shampoo. Formulated to remove human grease. Use at a concentration which works...
2 harsh option - citrus degreaser. Some are VERY harsh, others rather milder. Choose your weapon... |
Are you certain your cleaning method “strip the DWR” (evidence of water penetration)?
Having a partner who’s a chemist, I learned to clean most things. But I hesitate to offer them for ski jackets precisely due to uncertainty of how they interact with the DWR. So I’d be interested to find out what does or does not negatively affect the DWR.
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You know it makes sense.
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| ski3 wrote: |
| Not mentioned, I've not tried it either, the soft green Swarfega is a relatively non aggressive cleaner that could be helpful, followed by soap flakes as a possible combination. |
Swarfega is basically Paraffin and washing up liquid - maybe not so non-agressive ?!?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I’m not entirely convinced these are all stains ie this one appears to be on the hem created by the pressure of the fixing underneath? Unless it has come off chairlift seats maybe??
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Poster: A snowHead
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@kitenski, I think that's worked in grime - I'm not convinced your "stains" aren't the same.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I can't get a black mark out of my yellow ski pants but I just shove them in the wash with a laundry capsule. I've put a hole in them now so not really bothered. I also have the grime off cars issue so wash them every week that I'm skiing...I look a clip when they are filthy from Monday to Friday
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@abc, ...I agree I'd like to see a formulation scientist's research on this. I don't know if it's the degreasers - some have a reasonably significant petrochemical content - or the mechanical act of rubbing - or both. but the fabric does wet our more after cleaning ...
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I always run a second wash with the re-proofing solution after cleaning to refresh the DWR, though I don't use degreaser on my ski gear anyway. I accept some level of grime is inevitable on my light-ish trousers, and only wash them properly at the end of the season. They're worn enough that I have a replacement pair in the wardrobe ready as a backup anyway now.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I use neat biological detergent scrubbed into warm damp fabric, scrub with stiff brush, leave for 30-60 mins, scrub again soak in bucket of warm water overnight, then bung into washing machine on 30C wash.
Amongst other things, this has enabled me to get button-lift seat stains out of luminous orange kids salopettes and get them back to nearly-new condition.
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The only consolation for me is that all the guides I have travelled with have the same rime on their gear.
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Mmmm. I recall a sailing incident in Scotland, years ago. Three or four boat loads (including us) of yachties in all the gear. Tied up prior to bad weather, head to wind so we could have the washboards out, and get some fresh air. Till the wind turned and blew straight in. We all stood round mulling it over. It was blowing a hoolie and I wasn't the only one unkeen on undoing all the ropes and trying to turn the boats around.
A few fishermen, dressed in old macs tied up with string, heard us wondering and came and offered to help. In the twinkling of an eye they had us all sorted out, sitting back down in the comfort, feeling foolish.
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@Origen, Nice. There's a lot to that story.
I am committed to not being foolish in the hills but compared with the craft knowledge of being in a place for years and years - actually the real meaning of 'place' really really knowing it - the French 'terroir' as Richard Negus reminds us - I know that I am just an amateur. With the early snow and then high winds I knew from the meteo about the November weak layer and was very cautious this year - but watching from UK still meant that it wasn't deep knowledge - later in the season there were slides both big and small in places which I didn't expect...
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I have a liking for orange jackets. Mostly because everyone I ski with always tell me that I’m easy to spot!
My bargain Quiksilver gore tex jacket (orange) from TK Max (£70) lasted about 10 years without getting grubby. Eventually, wear and tear meant there were a few little nicks in it and it was retired. Swapped to a Peak Performance and it lasted only a few weeks until it looked grubby. Never could get it looking properly clean again despite trying lots of the things mentioned on here. It began to look pretty worn quickly too. Kept it going 4 seasons but it was pretty grim looking. At the end of season sales this year I’ve replaced it with a mustardy orange Picture jacket. Fingers crossed this is more like the Quiksilver jacket than the Peak Performance.
Last edited by After all it is free  on Tue 5-05-26 9:53; edited 1 time in total
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| kitenski wrote: |
| @Scarlet, Mtn Equipment said to try rubbing a wet cloth with washing up liquid onto the areas, currently in the washing machine but thought I'd see if snowheads had experienced similar. |
I have an Acr'terx with exactly the same problem and use washing up liquid
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Have always found that applying neat Granger’s, scrubbing vigorously and then leaving for 24hrs before then washing seems to do the trick.
I do then re-proof in case the DWR has been affected.
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