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Salopettes for warm weather

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Hi all, having spent last week skiing in glorious Easter sunshine, but also a wee bit too warm most of the time, I’m seeking a lighter pair of salopettes for spring skiing.

Criteria as follows:
I’m a lady and have hips - blokes gear won’t fit me. I know this from trying to pinch Mr M’s stuff.

Light weight / not hugely insulated. I’m approaching an age where I cannot stand being too hot.

I’m tall (176cm) and need a long leg length. Bib style tend not to fit me.

Nothing massively, stupidly expensive - I don’t want cheap rubbish & keep my gear for years but it’ll only see a couple of weeks use each year.

Any recommendations please?
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I'd advise either just shell ones and then use base layers to regulate insulation or touring soft-shell ones which are more breathable.

Untrakt on SportPursuit are their own brand but quality is pretty good and they're on sale at the moment...

https://www.sportpursuit.com/sales/untrakt-apr26?sp_nav=ct-11.ev-29883.
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Interesting. For me, the top half of the body is the one that needs regulating the most.

I wear a base layer (merino) and standard sallies. The only thing I do is unzip/zip the inside leg ventilation accordingly.

I'm not aware of much variation in insulation.
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@Layne, I was down to a T shirt so couldn’t regulate my top half any further Laughing
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I always still wear a base layer under my sallies even in Spring weather, I find the wicking properties of the merino keep me cooler than wearing the sallies alone, as the lining tends to be less forgiving next to the skin.
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adithorp wrote:
Untrakt on SportPursuit are their own brand but quality is pretty good and they're on sale at the moment...


A few months back I'd have agreed, then I had one zip break on mine and another just completely come away and fall apart. I am now sporting high quality duct tape to avoid having my legs flapping like a hummingbird's wings.
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@MotownJunk, There are plenty of options for uninsulated shell trousers - go on Sportpursuit to get a feel for what's about. The main thing to look for in my experience is a really long leg ventilation zip without a net cover, i.e. one that just opens to your skin (or thin base layer). You can dump heat super quickly, much more effective than the small vents with mesh covers in them.
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Shell trousers. I actually use mine most of the season, unless it's below about -15C then I use an old pair of insulated ski trousers. Lightweight merino leggings underneath the shell when it's warm, thicker ones if it's a bit chilly. Open the vents. Same for the top half – shell jacket with a merino base layer and the vents open.
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Black diamond dawn patrol hybrid - really good soft shell with waterproof bits where it matters. Light and made to last.
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I have the male version of these:

https://www.decathlon.at/p/351966-464580-skihose-damen-wasserdicht-freeride-fr-900-schwarz.html
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Portstewart Clothing Company on eBay usually have a load of D2B kecks at clearance prices. Get the ones that are just mesg/scrim lined.
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Not skied in particularly warm weather for a while, but last time I resorted to a pair of winter lined hiking trousers. Not as bulky as salopettes, but thick enough to prevent wind chill.
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I, my wife, and about half of our ski touring friends use the Simond ski touring/mountaineering trousers in mens or womens versions.

https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/women-s-mountaineering-trousers-alpinism-black/133046/c1c1m8386811

They've got a bit of stretch, and great vents. If its cold, lycra leggings underneath. If its warm, no leggings, and the vents mean air gets straight to your skin.
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Helly Hansen have loads of options and I’ve been impressed with the quality. Can usually pick up anything for a bargain on either sportpursuit or trekinn.
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SnoodyMcFlude wrote:
adithorp wrote:
Untrakt on SportPursuit are their own brand but quality is pretty good and they're on sale at the moment...


A few months back I'd have agreed, then I had one zip break on mine and another just completely come away and fall apart. I am now sporting high quality duct tape to avoid having my legs flapping like a hummingbird's wings.


Wish I'd not read that straight after eating lunch!
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adithorp wrote:
SnoodyMcFlude wrote:
adithorp wrote:
Untrakt on SportPursuit are their own brand but quality is pretty good and they're on sale at the moment...


A few months back I'd have agreed, then I had one zip break on mine and another just completely come away and fall apart. I am now sporting high quality duct tape to avoid having my legs flapping like a hummingbird's wings.


Wish I'd not read that straight after eating lunch!


But at least it’s high quality duct tape!
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@adithorp, the zip is at ankle level, I don't tend to use the fly as I like the breeze.
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element wrote:
@MotownJunk, There are plenty of options for uninsulated shell trousers - go on Sportpursuit to get a feel for what's about. The main thing to look for in my experience is a really long leg ventilation zip without a net cover, i.e. one that just opens to your skin (or thin base layer). You can dump heat super quickly, much more effective than the small vents with mesh covers in them.

THIS!
Bought new trousers for this season: Rab GoreTex with a light primaloft insulation, and long mesh-less vents on the outside of the thighs. I normally ski between late December and early February but went last week with Mrs.tsgsh and the temperature in Obergurgl got up to +17C in bright sunshine at village level, and I'm naturally a "bit" sweaty.
First thing on the gondola at the end of a run and zips completely open, but if I tried to ski like that my legs got quite cold quite fast: half open at most. This with no base layer.
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adithorp wrote:
I'd advise either just shell ones and then use base layers to regulate insulation or touring soft-shell ones which are more breathable.

Untrakt on SportPursuit are their own brand but quality is pretty good and they're on sale at the moment...

https://www.sportpursuit.com/sales/untrakt-apr26?sp_nav=ct-11.ev-29883.


I'd second everything here.... she'll is the way to go. You'll usually them listed as Ski trousers as opposed to sallopettes.... I've bought Untrakt and they're great
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Thanks folks, I’ll have a look… even with inside leg vents my current pair were too hot last week!
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Try Vinted. I bought black ski trousers for teenagers with 20K water p and 12K breathability and side zips in nearly new condition £20. Think they are Tresspass which i used to avoid but these are great. I spent £180 last year on schofell ski trousers but no better than £20 ones. Merino base layer is meant to be v good. I use HH and they are fine
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The problem with opening leg vents on a sunny day with no base layer is sunburn, and weird lines.
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@hang11, unless they are really posh and have a mesh or other breathable fabric on the inside.

Mrs A has some Pyua 3-layer pants with this feature:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=pyua+%28trousers%2Cpants%29

I have, for years, been using some Mountain Equipment trousers with Schoeller stretch fabric for years in all weathers from glaciers to ribbons of snow. They've never felt too warm and the only time I've felt cold in them was in Cervinia with a bitter wind. IIRC, they came in 3 leg lengths.

Similar:
https://www.ukclimbing.com/gear/clothing/legwear/softshell_trousers-8277
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