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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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all the reports so far say it is a massive leap in how the transmission to the ski feels in the turn, had my hands on it in july, but as per usual sworn to secrecy, they will be in store next week, embargo is lifted so will be available in select sizes /models
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Is the reasoning for buckles on the foot rather than BOA known?
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I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve realised the limited benefits of boa on the foot really don’t justify the cost.
Buckles are dirt cheap and are all that is needed on the foot really.
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Interesting how far back buckle 2 is?
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| adithorp wrote: |
| Is the reasoning for buckles on the foot rather than BOA known? |
Something new needed every couple of years ?? :: next innovation - Rear section of shell to pivot backwards ? (I shall think of a catchy name shortly...  )
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How about -- SX something (and then a number??)
Last edited by You'll need to Register first of course. on Sat 17-01-26 22:06; edited 1 time in total
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I personally have my instep buckle so it just catches and doesn't come off when flexed forwards but my toe buckle fairly tight, I have the cuff buckles equally tight. This looks the correct way round to do it to me. I thought that when they released the first ones the other way around.
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| adithorp wrote: |
| Is the reasoning for buckles on the foot rather than BOA known? |
Not saying this is the reason but I seen an instagram video where it was suggested the more rigid buckles make the clog less susceptible to torque/twist across the two sides.
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| albob wrote: |
: next innovation - Rear section of shell to pivot backwards ? (I shall think of a catchy name shortly... )
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How about -- SX something (and then a number??) |
To allow easier entry? Rossi vizion.....
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@adithorp, @KenX, the buckle is attached to the cuff on one side and the clog on the other. Not sure it would be achievable with a BOA?
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I hadn’t spotted that. Yes the upper buckle is tying the cuff to the clog at that point so needs to be quite strong and stiff for stability as damanpunk pointed out.
It’s an interesting departure from the usual. I’ll be interested to see how they perform in practice.
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| CEM wrote: |
| all the reports so far say it is a massive leap in how the transmission to the ski feels in the turn, had my hands on it in july, but as per usual sworn to secrecy, they will be in store next week, embargo is lifted so will be available in select sizes /models |
How does this boot differ from the SPro Supra Boa / Supra Dual Boa other than the BOA location? Assume the shell is completely different but the 'clasp' concept has been moved to the shin/calf rather than forefoot?
Love my Supra BOAs (prefer the clamshell lock on the forefoot to clips) however I was having issues getting the bugg*s on last week!
BTW - Thanks for the support on my snapped Mojos Colin! Your colleague was v helpful in getting me sorted whilst I was crying up the mountain in Saalbach!
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You know it makes sense.
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@Belch, Read the article. The picture doesn’t really show the difference.
The cuff and the clog are bolted together on one side. So there is only a pivot on the outside of the Boot.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| afterski wrote: |
@Belch, Read the article. The picture doesn’t really show the difference.
The cuff and the clog are bolted together on one side. So there is only a pivot on the outside of the Boot. |
Apols - blindly ignored the link . . !
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Belch wrote: |
| CEM wrote: |
| all the reports so far say it is a massive leap in how the transmission to the ski feels in the turn, had my hands on it in july, but as per usual sworn to secrecy, they will be in store next week, embargo is lifted so will be available in select sizes /models |
How does this boot differ from the SPro Supra Boa / Supra Dual Boa other than the BOA location? Assume the shell is completely different but the 'clasp' concept has been moved to the shin/calf rather than forefoot?
Love my Supra BOAs (prefer the clamshell lock on the forefoot to clips) however I was having issues getting the bugg*s on last week!
BTW - Thanks for the support on my snapped Mojos Colin! Your colleague was v helpful in getting me sorted whilst I was crying up the mountain in Saalbach! |
no worries on the mojo, they have good support through europe now which makes things a lot simpler
the new boot is on their Alpha last, so narrower lower volume than the supra, so if the supra fits your foot well then the alpha is likely to be too tight
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@CEM, Not in the market for new boots . . .yet! (although I'm a sucker for new shiny things) Assume they may make a wider last variant(s) if this sells then . .
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I see its a narrow last (yay) and low volume, how low volume ? Might need an upgrade from my Hawx (which are battered after 2 Patrol seasons!) @CEM Comparable for skinny feet like mine, would put my zippers in them.
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Why no Boa on the clog? Because they don't survive all the hits in that area! The marks on the alloy clips on my boots will attest to how much roughing up that part of the boot gets. And the large Boa knob is just aching to be battered.
So, there's a hinge at the anterior ankle position but not at the interior. My assumption is that when you flex the boot this drives deformation of the cuff at the interior ankle position. I can see the notch cut into the interior position of the cuff. Does that close?
I'm sure they know what they're doing but I'd like to hear real world feedback.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Durability is another point but im sticking with the ability to pressure the clog buckles independently from each other. Perhaps you shouldn't need to with a perfect fit but that isn't often the case. I don't have my toe buckles tight but I do like them significantly tighter than the instep and I dont see how you can do that with Boa? Haven't tried them so I am making assumptions from how they look that they can't adjust the tightness in the two areas independently.
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Yet to be convinced this isn’t a total crock - if it ain’t broke…
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| philhitch wrote: |
Why no Boa on the clog? Because they don't survive all the hits in that area! The marks on the alloy clips on my boots will attest to how much roughing up that part of the boot gets. And the large Boa knob is just aching to be battered.
So, there's a hinge at the anterior ankle position but not at the interior. My assumption is that when you flex the boot this drives deformation of the cuff at the interior ankle position. I can see the notch cut into the interior position of the cuff. Does that close?
I'm sure they know what they're doing but I'd like to hear real world feedback. |
I can report i've used a pair of Atomic Hawx with a BOA on the front for about 120 days now on ski patrol which includes all sorts of weird and wonderful hits like climbing lift towers, banging sleds into them, kicking stuff around and they have been absolutely fine.
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@Belch, i am sure this will move to the supra last in a couple of seasons (in fact i know it will) first pair out the door today one very happy slim footed skier
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Had the email from Amersports yesterday advertising this new model.
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They look really interesting for my next boots.
Salomon and low volume have been what @CEM has put me in for years.
However:
That colour...I am sure that @CEM won't want me to have those...it would clash with my ski outfit, and we can't have that
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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If you don’t like the blue they also do the 130 in ‘Wrought Iron’ and a 120 in black.
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You know it makes sense.
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| Weathercam wrote: |
| And can anyone work out the ski I'm also testing? |
There are other pics of those skis on skitalk.
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And can anyone work out the ski I'm also testing?
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Black Crows Mirus Core, next season ?
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Poster: A snowHead
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Lack Crows Vena Cor 27
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| ski3 wrote: |
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And can anyone work out the ski I'm also testing?
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Black Crows Mirus Core, next season ? |
Not sure I like the PJ . . .front tip shape has also changed?
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Front and rear tip has changed and they look more park orientated- do they ski any different / has the spec changed dramatically from the current model? Considering a splurge on this seasons as they are already dropping in price and I've always fancied them . . . 
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@Belch, the Mirus Cor is a great all-mountain ski, always been a bit pricey though, if you can get a deal go for it, the new Vena Cor is super-soft and a totally different ski, which I'm sure @weathercam will attest to!
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@KenX, Oh - so its a new ski and the MC will continue? What are Vena Cor specs?
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@Weathercam, really a "revolution"?
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@Belch, I'm guessing the Mirus will continue as it's in the 26/27 ski test, Vena is 100mm waist, 17m radius, twin tip with slight swallowtail, old skool tip and super flexy, really at its best on a powder day, but I'd be taking something wider then, so bit of a niche ski you'd buy for the looks!
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@under a new name, read it again, I said "revelation" and not "revolution" 
@Belch, it's a very different ski to the MC much softer, and I skied it twice, once yesterday on piste and then today in super fresh snow, and unfortunately I did not get on with it 
I know it was the ski, and I was skiing with @KenX, and he stayed on the same skis, whilst I changed to the Vena Cor after I'd been ripping on a Blizzard Canvas Freeride 100 @ 174 and asked him 3/4's of the way down if the snowpack had changed and he said "No" and it as obvious I wasn't confident with the ski.
Skied three or four others (you get ski amnesia, so await to get the details of what I skied) afterwards and was smashing the tracked with all them until I skied another softer ski and went to pieces on that.
Also spent the morning skiing with the all new Tecnica Cochise replacement 
And long chats with the top honchos, which I'll be writing up soon.
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| adithorp wrote: |
| Is the reasoning for buckles on the foot rather than BOA known? |
I never saw the point of the fancy (expensive) boa system replacing the front buckles, fitting advice was always to have them just tight enough to hold the boot closed & many times I have been skiing when the front buckles have come undone & I haven't noticed any difference.
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