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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@EGP01, on the whole, I'd say the "red" runs are much more like firm French blues. And immaculately groomed.
The only real red run crux (a section now re-marked I think as black) is the run from Sarezza at the top of Champoluc down to the Belvedere chair which has one narrowish corner that can get a bit scraped and clogged with the nervous.
The black runs down to Staffal are probably best avoided, as is the black run into the Alagna bowl. Not that challenging as black runs go, but some almost steep sections. |
I think you are understating the grip factor of the blacks in Monterosa.
Absolutely the runs are marked up overall in Monterosa and I agree with your comparison of the reds to French blues but that is the thing to remember since it is very easy to be lulled into a false sense of security by that thought.
The blacks are, on the top pitches, steep not "almost" but steep... as to how long they are sustained might better explain the sniffiness of your dismissal.
The gooses ars* as I refer to the Sarezza canyon is for me never to be underestimated as is usually polished to high gleam and/or covered in pee-panted soft skittles which does raise the heart rate after a good lunch in one or another of champers fine piste side dining establishments. (although watching a while at the turn does provide good entertainment on a busy day)
Same can be said of Olen on the top couple of pitches until it opens up just below Giacetti, both of these blacks are the only piste access or return to the adjacent valleys and given both run under cliffs that tend to keep the sun off the pistes tend to get polished pretty quickly.
You don't go to MonteRosa to pin the Kandahar although the Leo at Weissmatten can provide thrills of that nature on the rare occasions that it open nowadays.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Super Steezy wrote: |
| under a new name wrote: |
@EGP01, on the whole, I'd say the "red" runs are much more like firm French blues. And immaculately groomed.
The only real red run crux (a section now re-marked I think as black) is the run from Sarezza at the top of Champoluc down to the Belvedere chair which has one narrowish corner that can get a bit scraped and clogged with the nervous.
The black runs down to Staffal are probably best avoided, as is the black run into the Alagna bowl. Not that challenging as black runs go, but some almost steep sections. |
I think you are understating the grip factor of the blacks in Monterosa.
Absolutely the runs are marked up overall in Monterosa and I agree with your comparison of the reds to French blues but that is the thing to remember since it is very easy to be lulled into a false sense of security by that thought.
The blacks are, on the top pitches, steep not "almost" but steep... as to how long they are sustained might better explain the sniffiness of your dismissal.
The gooses ars* as I refer to the Sarezza canyon is for me never to be underestimated as is usually polished to high gleam and/or covered in pee-panted soft skittles which does raise the heart rate after a good lunch in one or another of champers fine piste side dining establishments. (although watching a while at the turn does provide good entertainment on a busy day)
Same can be said of Olen on the top couple of pitches until it opens up just below Giacetti, both of these blacks are the only piste access or return to the adjacent valleys and given both run under cliffs that tend to keep the sun off the pistes tend to get polished pretty quickly.
You don't go to MonteRosa to pin the Kandahar although the Leo at Weissmatten can provide thrills of that nature on the rare occasions that it open nowadays. |
Well said ...
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@Super Steezy, lightweight.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Must be the Mounjaro
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Webcams showing a nice top up today.
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Snowing and +1°c in town. Wind warnings and looks like Passo Salati will be closed again.
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Had about 15cm in town yesterday and it's a lot less cold.
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Anyone there just now ? Are the conditions good after recent snowfall .? It’s a new resort for us. No absolute beginners but a few children with us too. They will have private lessons. Any suggestions for day one getting to know the area. We will start off in Staffal.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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These aer brill. Will keep us going. Only 12 more sleeps. !
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| Gufo wrote: |
| Anyone there just now ? Are the conditions good after recent snowfall .? It’s a new resort for us. No absolute beginners but a few children with us too. They will have private lessons. Any suggestions for day one getting to know the area. We will start off in Staffal. |
If you’re on your own then head up to top of Col D’olen. Lap the blue a bit to warm up down to Cimalegna. Then ski all the way down to join them.
The black down to Staffal is quite tame (imo).
With the kids you can lap the red down to Sant Anna from Bettaforce via the fun slope that starts just as you get off the chair lift.
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You know it makes sense.
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Just arrived to a welcome 20deepncrispneven @2000m …
-4 granular crunch underfoot
Solid 50 on roof
Looking promising
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Anybody there this week is going to have a cracking time. Just so long as rockfalls don't close the road again!
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Poster: A snowHead
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Anyone there just now ? Are the conditions good after recent snowfall .? It’s a new resort for us. No absolute beginners but a few children with us too. They will have private lessons. Any suggestions for day one getting to know the area. We will start off in Staffal.
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Just back this Sunday. Day one up the gondola to Gabiet and then the 3 man chair and the blues, for the beginners. Everybody else up to Salati and Algna one way and then Saint Anna and Bettaforca the other, followed on to Champoluc. Go to Novez for lunch, excellent.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Those who went / are there, could you please post some pictures?
I'll post some, but arrive only Saturday 14th.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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 7th Jan, looking down to Gabiet.
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 9th Jan, view over Staffal
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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 10th Jan, a bit of the blue piste at Lago Gabiet
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| Onnem wrote: |
If you buy the skipass for the whole week, exclusive the Indren Funifor.
Is it possible to buy an extension for one day? |
You can buy it at the Indren lift daily, I think it's about 8 euros.
Re the Indren lift, there only is 1 itinerary down from there, which has the occasional marker post. The rest is fairly serious off piste either to the right or left, not marked not patrolled. The itinerary itself is steeper than a black and can have large moguls, that section is not obvious from the start, and is a couloir with rocks at either side. Harder than the Swiss wall for a guideline. In Italy you need equipment for off piste, and the carabinieri will check, especially if you have no rucksack. Large fines.
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Great find, and yes that's it, not many poles so requires care in poor vis. Top is easy so don't be lulled in...I will be there from Sunday so will update if the Indren opens.
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Thanks, huttohut and rolandorolando 
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| Onnem wrote: |
| Thanks, huttohut and rolandorolando |
100%. I'll be there in a little over a month. I'd like to try it for sure if the conditions are right. Where does that run end up? The Alagna side or Gressoney side? How far from the lift are you when it ends?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| JoeSchmoe wrote: |
| Onnem wrote: |
| Thanks, huttohut and rolandorolando |
100%. I'll be there in a little over a month. I'd like to try it for sure if the conditions are right. Where does that run end up? The Alagna side or Gressoney side? How far from the lift are you when it ends? |
Its the dotted line on the piste map! rejoins the piste above Gabiet
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The Indren was shut today, the off piste is good, better on the Alanga side of Bettaforca....beware rocks on the Champoluc side
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Big Family trip to Alagna in Half Term. We have my non skiing parents in their late 70s with us.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in theory possible to use the lift system to get up from Alagna and down to Gabiet and potentially up the chair and walk to refugio Gabiet. And also get down to Staffal on the Gondola - I suppose is doable.
cheers
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Poster: A snowHead
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| norris wrote: |
Big Family trip to Alagna in Half Term. We have my non skiing parents in their late 70s with us.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in theory possible to use the lift system to get up from Alagna and down to Gabiet and potentially up the chair and walk to refugio Gabiet. And also get down to Staffal on the Gondola - I suppose is doable.
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In theory yes (as all Gondola's / cable cars except*) but probably not the *chair up to Lago/ Rifuio Gabiet, but there are a couple of other huts/restaurants accessible on foot if they are reasonably mobile and well shod from Gabiet.
Also from Stafal its another cable car to Sant Anna & a restaurant.
I doubt they do a pedestrian ticket though so will likely be the cost of a full day pass to do that.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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There was a sign on the Gabiet Lago chair that read 'reserved for skiers only'
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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In theory yes (as all Gondola's / cable cars except*) but probably not the *chair up to Lago/ Rifuio Gabiet, but there are a couple of other huts/restaurants accessible on foot if they are reasonably mobile and well shod from Gabiet.
Also from Stafal its another cable car to Sant Anna & a restaurant.
I doubt they do a pedestrian ticket though so will likely be the cost of a full day pass to do that.
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Excellent thanks. Yes no sign of pedestrian passes for this.
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There was a sign on the Gabiet Lago chair that read 'reserved for skiers only'
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Cheers for the confirmation. Lunch at the Adlers Nest it is.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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And Alpinfans, is not Alpinforum.
Both are German language, and excellent.
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Stunningly beautiful day today. Slopes in great condition. Big smiles everywhere you go.
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Can you put some pictures up?
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Considering coming out Monday a week from today. How does the off piste seem?
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None of our party trying off piste but spoke to instructor this morning who has confirmed it is good right now and after expected snow tomorrow Thursday is very promising.
Today a bit more cloudy with perfectly pisted wide reds. What more could you ask for ? Coffee & lunch spots pretty spot on too.
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