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We're based near Linga - have you ever know the lifts between the Linga sector and SC be closed?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@pmercer, Not that I am aware except for when TS Gabelou slid off the mountain.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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The upside of all this is no congestion in Châtel village at 5pm. There were no queues on Route De Linga yesterday coming up the hill as this time when normally it’s a 45-60 min drive from PLJ in holiday traffic. If only the Mairie could take some lessons from this to improve congestion. A permanent park and ride at Panthiaz along with paid parking at PLJ, may be too controversial, but having a temporary No Right Turn, excluding busses, onto the Route de Linga and Bechigne coming from PLJ would mean traffic would force people to go the long way around and eventually take the shuttle busses.
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| pmercer wrote: |
| We're based near Linga - have you ever know the lifts between the Linga sector and SC be closed? |
They're marked as open on the interactive map (which has just gone offline). Do you mean the lifts between linga and plj? The whole of fornet is marked closed too. The Avi risk is marked 4/5. I can't remember the last time this happened, but I live a few miles away so I don't pay attention all the time.
Edit: of course I can remember previous avalanche 4s, but not widespread lift closure for many days due to av risk. That said, it's not usual to have heavy rain and some snow for a few days.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Not really sure what's happening today but the lift up to chatel from Morgins started, then stopped about 40 mins ago and didn't restart. The interactive map isn't working and loads of the runs at Morgins are showing as closed on the Porte du Soleil website. Not seeing the point in going up at the moment. This is the worst week I've ever known for skiing in the 9 times I've been to the Alps.
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| Ozboy wrote: |
| The upside of all this is no congestion in Châtel village at 5pm. There were no queues on Route De Linga yesterday coming up the hill as this time when normally it’s a 45-60 min drive from PLJ in holiday traffic. If only the Mairie could take some lessons from this to improve congestion. A permanent park and ride at Panthiaz along with paid parking at PLJ, may be too controversial, but having a temporary No Right Turn, excluding busses, onto the Route de Linga and Bechigne coming from PLJ would mean traffic would force people to go the long way around and eventually take the shuttle busses. |
That would just force the congestion onto a different (my) road, mate. It's France anyway. Do you really think that anyone would respect a no right turn sign? I think you're thinking of Switzerland. 
The only way to encourage people to take buses is to make them pay to park and make the buses less unreliable than they currently are.
Can you think of anywhere else in the PDS where you can park (in such numbers ) for free? When people are driving there, they're not thinking about the traffic getting back.
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| LemiTheBoarder wrote: |
| Not really sure what's happening today but the lift up to chatel from Morgins started, then stopped about 40 mins ago and didn't restart. The interactive map isn't working and loads of the runs at Morgins are showing as closed on the Porte du Soleil website. Not seeing the point in going up at the moment. This is the worst week I've ever known for skiing in the 9 times I've been to the Alps. |
Can't vouch for the clunky old corbeau lift, but the avj risk is 4/5. Once it hits 5, it's full resort shutdown. Happens fairly frequently in tarantaise resorts.
As I've said before, the interactive map is an embarrassment to a multimillion euro collection of companies that is the PDS. i know of cafés with better tech.
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I've got the PDS App, which doesn't seem to appear on the Google Play Store anymore. The live info is often wrong and at the moment it's completely dead.
What I'd like is the ability to buy ski passes with minimal clicks, but it's a mission every time.
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@snoozeboy, paid parking would go a long way, exempt for workers.
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That very same link shows linga and echo alpin fully open. It's just a different flavour of shite.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Can confirm Morclan is open
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@snoozeboy, the map is wrong but the lists are correct showing Echo not open.
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You know it makes sense.
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| LemiTheBoarder wrote: |
| Not really sure what's happening today but the lift up to chatel from Morgins started, then stopped about 40 mins ago and didn't restart. The interactive map isn't working and loads of the runs at Morgins are showing as closed on the Porte du Soleil website. Not seeing the point in going up at the moment. |
Not sure what was happening with the Corbeau lift, I didn't look in that direction, was skiing with guests on the Foilleuse, left a bit earlier than your post. It's certainly running now though. Couldn't get round to Crosets, lifts in that direction from Champoussin closed due to winds, earlier and possibly expected later.
But there's still plenty, especially nice accessible tree-level off piste, in just that limited area. Had a blast.
| LemiTheBoarder wrote: |
| Not seeing the point in going up at the moment. This is the worst week I've ever known for skiing in the 9 times I've been to the Alps. |
Your glass really is half empty, isn't it? I had a great morning, back at chalet now with stuff to do.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Best Half term snow in many a year I'd say as a long time watcher and avoider of skiing at half term 
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Poster: A snowHead
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Anybody have a view on what the snow conditions on the Jura roads are likely to be on Thursday? I travel Vallorbe - Hopitaux Neuf - Champagnol - Poligny.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@BergenBergen, Ta! Will take a look.
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| LemiTheBoarder wrote: |
| This is the worst week I've ever known for skiing in the 9 times I've been to the Alps. |
These are the best conditions we've had in the PDS since 2020/21 when all the lifts were closed on the French side. Truly fantastic skiing all the way down to resort levels.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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A question for regulars - have Geneva flights booked for 21st March week. Obviously no one can predict the conditions then (and we can't get out earlier darn it) BUT there's a ridiculously good deal on a half board plus full area ski pass basis in Morzine I'm minded to go for. 3 minutes walk to the lift towards Avoriaz, we can stuff ourselves with food, and it's cheap enough that we can divert and eat out if it's awful (but it has decent reviews so fingers crossed).
Is there a reason I don't know about not to go for that? Don't care if it's not snowy in the village, and I've skiied that week in March in the PdS from Chatel before so know it could be either boiling or soaking! What am I missing?!
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Sorry I probably didn't make myself clear, the skiing itself is fantastic, the snow is immense with fresh powder constantly. I meant more the poor visibility for the last 2 days. Unfortunately I have 2 young kids and a not very confident wife so those conditions aren't the best. But that's just my circumstances. Ideally we'd all love all this snow the week before we come and then bluebird days all week while we are here  I think I was just grumpy after spending most of the day queuing yesterday with the linga link closed and having to wait an hour for a bus in PLJ.
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Back from a week at the base of Mt Chery.
What an odd season weatherwise so far.
On one hand plenty of snow for skiing, on or off piste (keeping in mind it's LG, not haute montagne).
On the other hand, kids' races get cancelled one after the other - wrong kind of snow. I don't know enough about organising an alpine skiing competition so fully trust the clubs, mind you.
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I've just looked out the window and seen them grooming the run down from Corbeau chairlift into Morgins. First time I've seen that being bashed this week.
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We’ve been spoiled in recent years with bluebird days here over half term, but this year is a different kettle of fish in terms of snow quality. My eldest is at uni so isn’t with us this year, but our other two (17 & 13) are absolutely loving it. We’ve never been out so early each morning
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Ozboy wrote: |
@snoozeboy, the map is wrong but the lists are correct showing Echo not open.
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It opened somewhere before 11am, don't know when, thats just when I noticed. Its good it opened but a bit frustrated at the comms from Chatel saying it would definitley be shut all day which I then planned my day around (I had to get from PLJ to Super Chatel for a ski lesson pick up).
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@LemiTheBoarder, Our friends skied down the ungroomed run to Morgins today and it was fine to get down so you are probably right it will open this week.
@Matt1959, I did the route a few years ago after a cold snowy spell, with snow all the way to Champagnole and it was fine to drive and absolutely stunning. Best to turn right at the roundabout at Les Hôpitaux-Vieux to take the detour as the stretch past Metabief was quite icey.
We spent most a lot of the day lapping the Onaz button lift and making the most of the fresh powder fields on either side of the piste. Hoping they open Barbossine by end of week 
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You know it makes sense.
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@Ozboy, Thanks Ozboy. That's the way we normally go. I'll take a look at the weather on Thursday morning and make a decision then. Only going to Troyes on Thursday so not the full Calais or bust drive.
Enjoy your skiing!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Yesterday was a strange one, the morning felt like more lifts than actual skiing particularly with having to down lift into morgin from chatel. Snow conditions (piste) were amazing, so the few runs we did were spot on. Really enjoyed some of the runs around Morgin. The long drag to get back to Chatel was an experience. My youngest son was terrified having witnessed at least 6 people fall off at the start. One poor chap fell off four times before managing to get up the hill. We then had the audacity to have a drink in chatel until 6.15pm only to be faced with the eratic bus system - eventually we got one home. Lots of great skiing and snow - hopefully the lifts over the top of Linga will be open from the off this morning - haven't heard any blasting so far which i hope is a good sign.
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Poster: A snowHead
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So we are planning on heading over to chapelle d'abondance today, going up Braitaz and getting some of the runs down to the back of chatel towards Onnaz lift area. The live lift map is showing nearly all the lifts in preparation, apart from Conche 2000 as closed. Does anybody know if this means it's closed for the day? Don't think we'll get back if it is
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Just to add Chaux Longue and Contrebandier are also showing as closed
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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As far as I can tell the large map in the app is pretty useless for updating and often runs an HR plus behind. mine has a tag in the bottom saying last update at 7.50....... The isolated Avoriaz/ Morzine one is updated more frequently I believe.
As someone mentioned, try the lists at top of app , seems to updated more often or find the website dedicated to you're area Vs the entries port du soliel
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@chaletbeauroc morning, we have family friends over this week with a 13Y old boarder ... do you mind confirming that they can get from Foilleuse to the bottom of Mossettes / Les Crosets on chairs without using drags? I'm not very familiar with your part of the world. Many thanks.
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I have to say, I have sympathy for lemi. I'm proudly a glass half empty guy too.
Great snow is only as good as the possibility of skiing it and not standing in queues all day.
Châtel has always, as long as I can remember, had a problem with the traffic and buses getting back from plj at the end of the day during peak weeks.
In normal circumstances, there were workarounds - end the day at sc, not PLJ, don't go anywhere near Avoriaz or ski the whole day in barbossine/torgon/la chapelle, which is what I used to do.
This year, they have the unusual situation of a rockfall, a closed PLJ road and high avi risk, which means that sc is well past its capacity and PLJ, whilst being quieter than usual, requires an hour wait for a bus to get back, which isn't great, in the cold, with young children.
I know, I've done it, years ago, when the problem was that the buses took an hour to get through the traffic. These days I only ski plaine dranse, Avoriaz, during off peak weeks. I can't stand the high number of idiots skiing too fast for their ability, now that I've got old.
Avoriaz, morzine and les gets for sure are laughing at us complaining, saying look at the snow, it's wonderful, but then they're used to crowds and/or a lack of snow, respectively.
The wonderful thing about the pds is that it's a vast and varied single connected area, but we don't have the same expectations at different ends of it.
My advice for lemi would be to steer well clear of Châtel until they sort the rockfall problem. There's enough very good skiing on the swiss side, which at all periods is quieter yet suffers from poor snow quality and the latter doesn't currently apply.
I've even considered going to morgins to ski myself, but a little bit of sick came up in my throat and the parking there is another issue entirely. 
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| franga wrote: |
| @chaletbeauroc morning, we have family friends over this week with a 13Y old boarder ... do you mind confirming that they can get from Foilleuse to the bottom of Mossettes / Les Crosets on chairs without using drags? I'm not very familiar with your part of the world. Many thanks. |
Yes, there are no drags required in that direction.
Returning that way includes two though, one little baby one just 150m long or so, but the other one, Derrier Pertuis, is a long T-Bar with quite a steep last section. Can all be avoided by skiing all the way back to Morgins directly from Mossettes via the Tovassiere home run, although your 13-y-o boarder may struggle on it. (My boarder mate usually manages all but one short stretch without dismounting, but he's good, and he generally borrows a pole to keep going over most of the flatter sections). Alternatively just the baby drag (Gueilly) will let you get back via the Point de l'Au chair to the Didier deFago run which avoids the first, and worst, part of the home run, but it's still long and flat for some distance.
Or else they just do the circuit all the way round and back to Chatel, but then you've got the Chalet Neuf drag (very long double button) plus one more to get back to the Corbeau chair to Morgins.
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I note that the interactive piste map is still broken, not showing at all from the pds website, nor the app (which I still have on an old Android 9 phone) and not updated since 0752 on the intermaps page that it actually runs on.
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| Chaletbeauroc wrote: |
| franga wrote: |
| @chaletbeauroc morning, we have family friends over this week with a 13Y old boarder ... do you mind confirming that they can get from Foilleuse to the bottom of Mossettes / Les Crosets on chairs without using drags? I'm not very familiar with your part of the world. Many thanks. |
Yes, there are no drags required in that direction.
Returning that way includes two though, one little baby one just 150m long or so, but the other one, Derrier Pertuis, is a long T-Bar with quite a steep last section. Can all be avoided by skiing all the way back to Morgins directly from Mossettes via the Tovassiere home run, although your 13-y-o boarder may struggle on it. (My boarder mate usually manages all but one short stretch without dismounting, but he's good, and he generally borrows a pole to keep going over most of the flatter sections). Alternatively just the baby drag (Gueilly) will let you get back via the Point de l'Au chair to the Didier deFago run which avoids the first, and worst, part of the home run, but it's still long and flat for some distance.
Or else they just do the circuit all the way round and back to Chatel, but then you've got the Chalet Neuf drag (very long double button) plus one more to get back to the Corbeau chair to Morgins. |
You're a star, thanks mate!
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| Chaletbeauroc wrote: |
| I note that the interactive piste map is still broken, not showing at all from the pds website, nor the app (which I still have on an old Android 9 phone) and not updated since 0752 on the intermaps page that it actually runs on. |
It's now back online on the link in that post, although still not on the app of the pds site. It's that one that I have bookmarked from my new phone instead of using the app which won't run on it (or even install from the .apk file).
Showing quite a lot of lifts still closed around Avoriaz, everything else seems to be open.
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