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The All New Weather Outlook 25/26

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Trip to La Tania March 23rd

I like the green line !!! ( GFS) even the blue gets in on the action ( ECMWF)

Still looking positive for a change in a few weeks
I know - long way out !!!!

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/ens_image.php?geoid=45336&var=201
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Insane storm coming 20th March. You heard it here first snowHead
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For real? Tea leaves / entrails or super internet weather nerd tip off?
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@8611, Many of the models are showing something significant in the 2nd half of March, but they are pushing back day by day. It was showing from the 14th a few days ago, then 15th, now 16th...

All weather patterns break down eventually so I'd view the change as inevitable, but the models are just guessing when.
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@leggyblonde, not that you've been looking every six hours or so Laughing
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@Weathercam, refresh button has been melting faster than the snow Laughing
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GFS 6. Mixing things up a bit , not like it’s gonna happen but this trend is back after a few days away.

https://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/precipitations/3h.htm
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BobinCH wrote:
Insane storm coming 20th March. You heard it here first snowHead

What's Trump up to now?
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Is the sand hitting the UK going to hit the Alps? It's so grim when it happens
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Le Grand Renard wrote:
GFS 6. Mixing things up a bit , not like it’s gonna happen but this trend is back after a few days away.

https://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/precipitations/3h.htm


Hi

I'm completely hopeless at negotiating all these different forecasts but is the model essentially showing unsettled weather next week for the NW Alps and then calming down again around the 15th March?

Thanks !
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franga wrote:
BobinCH wrote:
Insane storm coming 20th March. You heard it here first snowHead

What's Trump up to now?


Operation Insane Storm - Snowmageddon that reaches 15 on a dial that only goes to 10.

(also watching the forecasts with intense interest, as next trip is on the 14th) Very Happy
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The 14th is a key date, when you can reasonably expect a substantial dump of nice powder, as that is the day I come back from Austria.
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My phone has just informed me there is very heavy snow coming to the Alps on the 14th. I have not seen evidence of this on the wigglies.
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@rambotion, here
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I know!! I live in hope but not on transfer day.
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Trip to La Tania March 23rd

GFS has become excited - ECMWF also has it’s moments

Still looking like something is going to happen , if it happens it looks like the snowline will be around La Tania’s height 1350m


Still a long time to go

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phillip33 wrote:
Trip to La Tania March 23rd

GFS has become excited - ECMWF also has it’s moments

Still looking like something is going to happen , if it happens it looks like the snowline will be around La Tania’s height 1350m


Still a long time to go

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/ens_image.php?geoid=45336&var=201


I have no more than a basic understanding of those graphs, but that looks bizarre. I doubt that is reliable it looks like the machine has had a stroke
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@monkey, yes, the OP 00z GFS on Wetterzentrale has being going nuts for a while
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nunex wrote:
The next week of heat kind of unsettles me. Should I be worried? Going to Laax this March 7th


You are going in March, so spring skiing is expected. Still takes a lot to melt well packed pistes; sure they'll be soft pm, but that's spring skiing. And if the skies are clear at night the pistes will freeze again even if it doesn't get below 0°C - radiative cooling as space is pretty cold:

"The snow surface constantly emits thermal radiation (heat) to the surrounding atmosphere. When the sky is clear, that heat escapes into space, allowing the snow to efficiently cool. If the sky is cloudy, there is significantly less radiative cooling. Cloud cover re-radiates heat back toward the snowpack.

"Radiative cooling is the primary driver that causes a wet snowpack to refreeze. During the springtime, clear nights are the most important factor in determining if the snowpack refreezes. Ambient air temperature also plays a role, but even if the air temperature drops below freezing, the snowpack may not freeze well if skies are cloudy. Conversely, the snowpack may refreeze during a clear night even if the ambient temperature is above freezing"


Does Sahara sand have the same effect as clouds in the sense of "blocking" radiative cooling?

The air (at least in Adelboden) has been looking a bit "hazy" since yesterday, which I suspect might be the Sahara sand. It also seems to feel a bit less warm than the previous day, so I suspect the sand (admittedly with some thin clouds too) has been been helping keep the temperature at bay. But then I was wondering whether this same sand still allows the heat to escape at night, or whether in practice it has the same effect as clouds; less heat during the day but less cold at night.
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@Gustavo the Gaper, stomp test on the snow outside of mine this morning south-facing slope, and it's still rock hard, though temp is +1 and very hazy sky which is probably the sand, and interestingly enough they're giving out pollution warnings for here!

Planning to drop off the back for Spring snow and then climb back up (900 descent 600 ascent), but timing will be critical again.

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Trip to La Tania, 23rd March

ECMWF - joins the party with some bold predictions- this would be good news if this happens - doubt it

The Average ( black line) is twitching around too . Shows snow will be falling and temperatures coming down too.

So we are getting closer - a change in the weather is coming - please !!!

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/ens_image.php?geoid=45336&var=201
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I'll be the ying to your yang. No idea how to interpret these charts but cold days with clear skies for 14th to 21st March for Tignes please
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@kb36,

Unlikely at the moment - looking like quite a snowy week I’m afraid - could still change - depends on the high pressure sitting out in the Atlantic - if it shifts further east you will be alright - but at the moment it’s position will allow some western fronts to get in - snow - quite a high line though- so rain around 1100 m

All bloody guesswork - others like Polo have a much better idea

Or try wepowder
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@phillip33, that sound absolutely fine to me. Also out in Tignes 15th for a week and I'd prefer it to be snowy, as long as i can see the piste I'm fine!
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A lot of precipitation on and off for Tignes over the next 2 weeks.
https://www.bbc.com/weather/2972607
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@Snow&skifan,

I think they are ECMWF fans
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phillip33 wrote:
@Snow&skifan,

I think they are ECMWF fans


ECMWF aren’t forecasting clear daytime skies for Tignes.
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Trip to La Tania March 23rd

Two weeks to Premier Inn Gatwick ( my daughter’s fav night of the holiday ???? !!!)

If you are relying on GFS and ECMWF then they have rolled back from their heavy dump forecasts, now more like a bit of cold coming in around Friday , dribble of snow , then it goes red hot , looks like i will be lunching on the terraces with a bottle from around 2 .

Still two weeks to go - exciting

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Looks like I might get clearer skies week of 14th as I hoped. Just shows different folk want different things from their experience.
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Heading out to Plagne Aime 2000 on the 14th March for a week. Forecasts seem to be moving around quite a lot but it does now appear that this week may have some reasonably sunny days intermixed with some snowier events. Is this at present a fair appraisal of the developing general situation?
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This thread should be renamed “building-up to @phillip33’s upcoming trip to La Tania” …
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@franga,

If i could work out how to set up a thread i would !!!!!

@kb36,

It’s looking a bit better for you at the moment
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Yes
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BobinCH wrote:
Insane storm coming 20th March. You heard it here first snowHead


If it doesn't happen I'll be sending a strongly worded email to who ever gives a flying fig Toofy Grin
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Gustavo the Gaper wrote:
buchanan101 wrote:


"The snow surface constantly emits thermal radiation (heat) to the surrounding atmosphere. When the sky is clear, that heat escapes into space, allowing the snow to efficiently cool. If the sky is cloudy, there is significantly less radiative cooling. Cloud cover re-radiates heat back toward the snowpack.

"Radiative cooling is the primary driver that causes a wet snowpack to refreeze. During the springtime, clear nights are the most important factor in determining if the snowpack refreezes. Ambient air temperature also plays a role, but even if the air temperature drops below freezing, the snowpack may not freeze well if skies are cloudy. Conversely, the snowpack may refreeze during a clear night even if the ambient temperature is above freezing"


Does Sahara sand have the same effect as clouds in the sense of "blocking" radiative cooling?


Hey, WePowder has answered my question too!

"Fortunately, the dust has had little effect on nighttime radiative cooling, which means snow conditions have remained relatively good."
https://wepowder.com/en/weblog/2026/03/07/nice-weather-for-touring-in-the-alps
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Trip to La Tania March 23rd

No no no no and no

Not happy this morning - yes the next week or so could see two waves of snow hitting the NW - also with temperatures dropping too - nice
Not so nice it what might happen starting on our arrival day -
I am not joking our last 3 trips 2 whiteouts and the most recent freezing bloody cold then a whiteout
It will change - it better

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@phillip33, it's hardly rocket science.

Click "Shs Forum Index" at the top of the page

Select forum of choice (I suggest Apres-Zone as that doesn't appear on the main headlines page and while I understand that this is of enormous interest to you, frankly, I have no interest)

Click "New Topic" at top of page.

Simples rolling eyes
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