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Not open, but was just possible today, due to the recent snowfall. Used some old off piste skis tho‘, wouldn‘t have contemplated it with a newish pair.
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Any insider knowledge what the 'very exciting' news about mooserwirt being released this week?
Sadly I ruptured my ACL so I'm in the physio phase, really hopeful of getting some easy blues before the season ends (do these exist here....)
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Gute Besserung/Get well soon!
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A quick update. I skied in St Anton again today. The on piste snow conditions weren‘t much different ie reasonably good but after midday somewhat chopped up - particularly on the Fang. From late morning, lowish cloud cover meant widespread flat light, particularly near the Schindler. A few Ski routes were open, the highlight again being the Schindlerkar. The Schindler Hang was also theoretically doable, but looked as bare as the bottom end of the Mattun yesterday: I had brought decent skis this time so gave it a miss. (Following the Mattun yesterday one pair of skis is already in ski hospital receiving emergency surgery  .) Relatively quiet.
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| badatbetting wrote: |
Any insider knowledge what the 'very exciting' news about mooserwirt being released this week?
Sadly I ruptured my ACL so I'm in the physio phase, really hopeful of getting some easy blues before the season ends (do these exist here....) |
That's bad luck. Unsurprisingly there a number of threads on this particular subject here. Two schools of thought, get an op or let it heal without one, advocates of both, if you ask you will get lots of advice. However the most important thing is to take proper advice from doctors and physios. Sure the local bods in St Anton will have lots of experience and will be able to best advise on when you can ski again, whatever route you choose it is hard work in the gym. If you wait until back in the UK there is a member here, Jonathon Bell who is a knee specialist who has much experience with ski and other sports injuries (including professionals) so maybe worth a visit.
If you do get back on skis this season easy blues might include the run down from Kapall and the blues down from Gampen (though the Hoppelweg is simply a track.
More time for the Moose & KK - not good for the training though!
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Good old Stanton to give a large wave of positivity lol
I know plenty of skiers who ski with zero ACL's, I am not sure if I'll be one of them who can manage but going to do physio here as I imagine they'll be specialists in comparison to back in the UK.
Also with regards to the surgery it seems like Innsbruck is the best place in the world for it, so it may make sense to get that here (if needed).
I've also already paid for the accomodation for the season so seems a waste to just throw that away and effectively pay rent twice while in the UK...also feels a complete waste of a visa so I'll continue to enjoy the Alps.
It's quite mad the result tbh, I was adamant it was just a lil bruising. Was very shocked the MRI showed a rupture (I didn't even know what an ACL was prior to the result tbh)
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@badatbetting, although this confuses me greatly I have to agree with Stanton. i don't know how old you are, I suspect you are relatively young, but if you can, please wait until appropriate, and get surgery done if needed. It will massively affect a close to 100% recovery for your knee. Other wise you will likely incur lifelong knee problems and that is no fun. Its up to you, but you are getting good advice here. Also, you can get a job in a bar and enjoy the rest of the season and use the down time to learn to play the guitar or saxophone or what ever floats your boat.
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I'm 36, I plan to do the surgery currently but I'm following the doctors/physios protocols. They advised a two months physio prior to the surgery anyway, and they both said I should hopefully be able to do some easy runs before the end of the season then likely get surgery in like May (if it's deemed necessary). There are a billion views online about how useful the surgery actually was, and it sounds like arthritis risk is higher whether you get surgery or not (sadly).
I appreciate all input tho as I I didn't know what an ACL was a week ago, I've been heavily educating myself since then (chatgpt is surprisingly good for this poo-poo).
Sadly due to Brexit I can't work here, but I like partying a lot so I'll keep myself busy.
I have met a shocking amount of elite skiers who blew their ACL (or both) and are completely fine, they think I'm being a baby taking a rest currently.
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@badatbetting, Bad luck dude. But yeah, take full advantage of the Austrian healthcare system as much as you can. Both the speed and level of service are likely to be higher than you'd get in the UK, and getting you skiing again will be their priority from the start. They are also far, far more experienced with ski injuries, and so your outcome is likely to be better.
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| badatbetting wrote: |
I'm 36, I plan to do the surgery currently but I'm following the doctors/physios protocols. They advised a two months physio prior to the surgery anyway, and they both said I should hopefully be able to do some easy runs before the end of the season then likely get surgery in like May (if it's deemed necessary). There are a billion views online about how useful the surgery actually was, and it sounds like arthritis risk is higher whether you get surgery or not (sadly).
I appreciate all input tho as I I didn't know what an ACL was a week ago, I've been heavily educating myself since then (chatgpt is surprisingly good for this poo-poo).
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Oh my! I blew my ACL right after xmas in Lech! Was skiing with my little daughter and ruptured it in a slow twisting fall on ice.
i was advised to do surgery and after a nights consideration had it done right there in Lech.
So far so good, but skiing season is naturally over. 
Good luck for you, but almost everybody has it done (surgery) sooner or later...
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Interesting they told you to do it straight away. I was at zams and they said they only did they after the end of the ski season... Was yours covered by travel insurance?
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| badatbetting wrote: |
| Interesting they told you to do it straight away. I was at zams and they said they only did they after the end of the ski season... Was yours covered by travel insurance? |
yes everything was covered by insurance (I am German). I felt instability in the knee, and thought ski season is over anyways, so why wait... I know there are so many different opinions on the topic, but I thought its better do do it right away (24 hrs after the injury). Also, they do surgery on the ACL every day. However I have heard Innsbruck is quite experienced, as well as Montafon/Dr. Schenk.
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You know it makes sense.
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After 25 years: St. Anton reaches for the World Ski Championships again for 2033
https://www.vol.at/nach-25-jahren-st-anton-greift-wieder-nach-der-ski-wm/9952676
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| badatbetting wrote: |
Good old Stanton to give a large wave of positivity lol
I've also already paid for the accommodation for the season so seems a waste to just throw that away and effectively pay rent twice while in the UK...also feels a complete waste of a visa so I'll continue to enjoy the Alps.
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You need to be certain if its just a tear or a Full Rupture..These differences can be lost in Doctors translation (German/English) If your hobbling around it is probably just a common tear. Full Rupture you will not be walking..
As for paid for accommodation...Presumably you have Full travel insurance (medical, accident ,ski, medical, repatriation etc) and compulsory 3rd party ? Then this would be a genuine insurance claim imo
Now you have visited a Medical Facility they will have a record that can be checked on by insurance companys.
I would contact your insurance company ASAP and ask them what you should(need to do ??
I doubt surgery is needed (unlikely if your walking) but if the medics advise it to be done in Austria & rehab at least let the insurance company know ASAP ..They may say No and arrange repatriation for surgery and recovery nearer your home
The REAL problem is if you attempt to go skiing and apres/night club partying and fall and make it worse etc... The insurance company will probably refuse to pay anything out due to you not informing them of the initial incident & medical advice
Of course its up to you but like I said above your insurance for skiing at this point in time is now basically void and 3rd party is compulsory at all times (not just skiing) .that also why you should contact them to keep the 3rd party still valid..
Forget driving a Car , insurance is invalid.
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It was a full rupture, I've had two opinions and also chatgpt agrees the MRI shows that.
I can walk fine. I obviously won't drive though, just getting my flatmate as a chauffeur.
I notified the insurance when I got the MRI result. I doubt they'll cover surgery but are covering the physio. If they cover surgery obviously that's the dream tho. I don't know why you assumed I didn't tell them lol
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Poster: A snowHead
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I suffered an equivalent injury about 15 years originally caused by an awkward twisting slip on ice carrying heavy suitcases to a hotel in St A. I thought nothing much of it, only for a ligament to „let go“ 3 days later while attempting a jump turn on the steep part of the Maroikopf above Langen. Fortunately, the off piste group I was with helped me to sideslip down, tho‘ I nearly passed out with pain attempting a turn. I decided against surgery, but for 2 seasons replaced downhill skiing with Langlauf (no twisting), and mountain walking with road biking (ditto, apart from clipping in & out of the pedals!) Ca 30 months after the original accident I was able (rather gingerly) to return to downhill skiing and mountain walking. The point of this anecdote is that you may have to be patient & look for alternative sports in the meantime..
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@stanton,
I am a coper, no ACL & no meniscus for 4 years now. Have been playing o50 football tournaments on it without any significant issues.
Just got back 2 weeks ago from a week skiing at Lech - knee was just fine, but I chose not to go off-piste.
It all depends on your own situation and stability. There are recent scientific papers in the US and Britain that discuss the coper alternative for select individuals/circumstances.
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Yeh I am currently looking like I am not a 'coper', but I've only had two physio sessions so far, hopefully after a month I can get a better idea where I am at. I enjoy hearing about people who ski amazingly without acl's, genuinely some of the best skiers I know have zero!
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How much new snow is there. Is it more than was forecasted?
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It's snowing pretty beautifully right now, as I'm not skiing I haven't been checking forecasts but if I was skiing I'd be happy with how it looks
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5th Feb at mooserwirt, what a line up! I need to find a good spot to be sufficiently drunk but also not on tv/bashed in the knee
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Haha I did see, and it's making me feel like a coward with my current physio and rest routine! On the brightside makes me more confident of some easy blues before the season ends!
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that's enough ACL talk 
How's the skiing?
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from what I can see on the Cams it still looks like it needs a lot more snow.
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Everyone is moaning that's its extremely hard, defo need some snow (hopefully in time for me to come out of retirement). I'm excited for moos tomorrow!
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Various forecasts (though not so much stanton's tourist office bod) are suggesting some snow over the next 10 days, hopefully just in time for my next visit 
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You know it makes sense.
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Skied in St Anton this morning from 8.30 - 12.30. Flat light early on was replaced by sunny weather. On piste conditions were surprisingly good: poor cover elsewhere limited my Ski Route options to the Schindlerkar (yet again). Contemplated the Mattun which this time was officially open & seemed to have better cover than last week when the bottom half was a rock scrape. Eventually decided against it after talking to a couple on the lift who had done it yesterday and said it was „schrecklich“. On the last run down, the bottom pistes were Sulz & it was +7 in the village.
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Warth to Lech (L 198)
Just an indication of how low the snowpack is this season..
The road connection between Warth and Lech is Open ..
This is normally closed all season due to Avalanche risk (although its more likely they do not want the Germans using it as a short cut)
I cannot remember ever when this road link (L 198) was open at this time of year
https://www.lechzuers.com/en/live-infos/road-report
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Forgot to mention Last Saturday Jan 31st
Avalanche in Stuben
Stuben am Arlberg (Vorarlberg), three skiers were swepted and (partly) buried on Saturday afternoon. The Austrian police have now started an investigation and are calling on two unknown skiers and any witnesses to come forward. According to the police, traces indicate that the avalanche may have been caused by these skiers.
Two descent tracks
The incident took place on the Maroiköpfe. Above the slope where the avalanche went off, two fresh descending tracks were found. Based on this, the police suspect that the avalanche was triggered by two skiers. After causing the avalanche, these skiers did not continue their descent, but climbed back up about 150 meters towards the Maroiköpfe.
The victims were part of a ski and avalanche science course.
The group had started Saturday around noon with a ski trip to the Maroiköpfe. Shortly after the start of the climb, a slab avalanche broke loose about 80 meters above the group.
The 70-year-old guide and a 33-year-old student were completely swept away by the avalanche and carried over rocky terrain.
Both were completely buried. They were treated on the spot by the mountain rescue and then transferred to hospitals in Feldkirch and Dornbirn.
The guide was seriously injured. A third student, also 33 years old, was partially buried. She managed to free herself.
Police are looking for witnesses
Some photos in the LWD Blog
https://lawinen.report/blog/at-07-de/13266
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Weather
Tomorrow Friday 6th
Light snow ,, Freeze level 1400Metres (Halfway between town and Mooserwirt)
At the beginning of next week, little will change in this weather situation. It will be with the Hairdryer (Föhn) lightly on and with a few clouds and sunshine.
There is a system out in the Atlantic , to early to know where that is going....
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February is madness Month (on the lifts/slopes) .. The Off Piste SnowPack is low so not worth hanging about
Time to head off to SE Asia ..for a few weeks,,
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Poster: A snowHead
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Opensnow looks very promising over the next couple weeks, hopefully it's accurate! I may have to buy some hyaluronic acid for my performance
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@badatbetting, taking up ski jumping?
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Uhhh... Yeh sure, ski jumping...
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Well maybe skiing with a ruptured ACL is not such a great idea unfortunately.
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A quick update. I skied yesterday (Saturday) morning in Lech. The highlight was the Langer Zug which in good condition. Following its reversion to black piste status, the steep slope seemed to have been groomed to make it more straightforward than it was as a ski route. (Or maybe this was just my imagination). Other pistes were in good condition but the main routes were closed due to lack of snow.,
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This morning (again from 8.30 - 12.30) I skied in St Anton. I did the Schindlerkar a few times which was straightforward + Route 66 (!) to St Christoph which was moguled, with thin cover in parts + part of Route 54 but finished it down the Bachseite to the bottom end of Happy Valley. Again the snow was OK. However more is urgently needed - let‘s see whether the dump forecast for later in tje week materialises. Am teaching the rest of the week, so will report further next week.
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Weather (coming to you from the sunny beaches of Indonesia)
The weather system roadblock that has prevented the Atlantic front to reaching the Arlberg will finally give way to a more varied westerly weather situation.
Tuesday.
Up on the hill the hairdryer will be switched on comes to life, some high cloud fields.
This will bring in a cold front, which will cause showers into Wednesday
Wednesday
Strong westerly winds, and precipitation on the Western Flank
Freeze line will vary between 1500m and 1800m
(likely lift closure higher up)
Thursday,
Changeable. mix of sun and clouds, maybe some snow showers .
Freeze line still variable
Friday
From now onwards colder air begin to sink in for the long term.
Snow line down to town and further down the valley is not likely until changeover day Saturday 14h Feb
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Weather trend: Atlantic lows bring the turnaround
After an extremely dry start to the winter, Austria is facing a change in the weather situation. While we can still look forward to sunshine and calm high-pressure weather in the first half of the week, Atlantic low-pressure areas will take command from Wednesday. The result: long-awaited precipitation and temperatures that are already awakening the first spring fever.
The meteorological winter of 2025/26 has so far shown its extremely dry side. Since December 1, there has been a massive precipitation deficit in large parts of the country - the nationwide average is a good half of the usual amount of rain and snow.
In regions such as the Arlberg or the Enns Valley, the minus is even around 75 percent
Locally, we are currently heading for one of the driest winters in measurement history.
But now an end to the blocking weather situation is in sight.
https://uwz.at/de/a/wetter-trend-atlantik-tiefs-bringen-den-umschwung
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Tomorrow February 10th marks the halfway point of the Official Ski Season 68.5 Day out of 137 Days
PRAY for SNOW !!
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I'm just back after a fun 8 days. Know the Arlberg pretty well as have been coming for nearly 30 yrs, but haven't been in the last 10 so interesting to see all the new lifts (Flexen, Tritkopf, Schindler, Valfagher, Albona, etc).
For all the moaning about snow, it could have been much worse... on-piste the snow is fine. Some days better than others, but pretty typically great in the morning and got skied off down to a firm base in the afternoon. Seemed like standard operating procedure for Euro piste skiing. Off-piste you definitely need rock skis and anything low doesn't have enough snow. It was quite spicy (branches, rocks, grass) getting to the return trail coming down the north face of Rendl through and under the avalanche fences and down to Verwall from Albona.
The 5cm that fell Friday night was a very deep 5cm and skied super fun up top around various piste's and routes off Schindler. The weekend before was quite fun after the bits of snow that fell leading up to it. Found fresh all over on Saturday and Sunday the 31st and 1st. Did Valluga Nord on Sunday and found a couple of great fresh lines. Those 3 days made the trip for me. Wish it was deeper, but would have been pretty scared about Avalanches with much more weight than we had.
The addition of all the new lifts (10person gondolas, 6 pack chairs) over the same # of pistes and with off-piste being limited mean that the 1 or 2 pistes per lift are way too crowded for fun and safe skiing. Found Lech and Warth to be better in this regard. Zurs was a bit frightening with all the 90 degree turns of the various roads. Part of this was skiing with 82 yr old dad who cruises, but I was worried about him getting blown up by some backseatlarry hauling ass out of control. He really enjoyed going to Warth.
What's up with people taking a cab or walking to Mooserwirt? It's not Apres-ski if you didn't ski to the hut.
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@munich_irish Trains run hourly via Bludenz to Landeck. Half stop in Langen & the other half stop in St Anton instead. Some years ago, I actually called into the ÖBB office in Bludenz (presumably having time on my hands & nothing better to do) & asked that very question - why does every other train stop in Langen and was told that was to allow easier connections to Lech. (The train connects with the bus to Lech at Langen - usually very efficiently. The alternative is a much longer bus journey from Bludenz to Langen). So ÖBB is balancing the needs of customers who want to travel on to Lech with those who want to stop in St Anton. (Which presumably also has a political dimension as Lech lies in Vorarlberg & St Anton in Tirol). I then asked the obvious question - why couldn‘t the train stop at both St Anton AND Langen. A long answer followed in „trainspeak“ German, the upshot being that this was due to single running on the crucial part of the line which would mean two stops would play havoc with the schedule. It is true that trains often have to wait outside Langen for an oncoming train to pass, but given the length of the total journey from Bludenz to Vienna and beyond + Austrian public transport efficiency, this would surely be solvable. So there you have it, for what it is worth. I didn‘t pursue the matter further, not least because the present set up of alternating stops suits me!
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