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Experts have warned that ocean temperatures off the coast of Ireland could bring heatwave conditions to the British Isles. Ocean temperatures are the highest on record. "It's super intense at the moment. The marine heatwave has really soared this week," warns Dr Ségolène Berthou at the Met Office. The heatwave could brings plagues of jellyfish and other warm water predators north to the British shores. In the North Atlantic, sea surface temperatures have been increasing by around 0.3C per decade over the last 40 years, according to the Met Office.
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@davidof, “ other warm water predators”
I thought Rolf Harris was dead??
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There was a recent report of a plague of octopii that were eating everything in crab and lobster pots.
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| rjs wrote: |
| There was a recent report of a plague of octopii that were eating everything in crab and lobster pots. |
The problem seems to have been caused by a local law in Devon, and - having read this - I actually dont understand how their "solution" is going to work !!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce81yl0gvrro
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@GreenDay, I think it would work for crab pots as the larger entrance is a sort of 'one way flap' big enough for the larger crabs to get through, but can't get back out. It's possible the octopii ( like lobsters ) don't like pushing through a flap, but can squeeze through the smaller holes.
Not quite sure what the plan for lobster pots would be mind.
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| davidof wrote: |
| Experts have warned that ocean temperatures off the coast of Ireland could bring heatwave conditions to the British Isles. Ocean temperatures are the highest on record. "It's super intense at the moment. The marine heatwave has really soared this week," warns Dr Ségolène Berthou at the Met Office. The heatwave could brings plagues of jellyfish and other warm water predators north to the British shores. In the North Atlantic, sea surface temperatures have been increasing by around 0.3C per decade over the last 40 years, according to the Met Office. |
The recent rise in sea temperatures in North Atlantic is absolutely terrifying.
Has been going on for 6-12 months - and scientists seem puzzled why there has been such a remarkable spike in temperature in such time period.
Absolutely no doubt this has a direct impact on UK weather and climate change releated.
The little snow we got in Scotland last winter only really arrived from Northerly direction.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7533y6l3k0o
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@Haggis_Trap, I think if you look back you'll see it is the last 3 years, accounting for the last few season's very poor snow below 1500 to 1800 meters in the Alps. Looks like next winter will be more of the same from your chart.
Last edited by Then you can post your own questions or snow reports... on Tue 27-05-25 9:23; edited 1 time in total
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| davidof wrote: |
| @Haggis_Trap, I think if you look back you'll see it is the last 3 years, accounting for the last few season very poor snow below 1500 to 1800 meters in the Alps. Looks like next winter will be more of the same from your chart. |
agree....
sadly good tree skiing is becoming a rarity.
feels to me like the climate took a step change for the worse post covid.
Sea temperature seems to match that.
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When is this going to happen please?
It's 6 C in Cardiff this morning
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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The heatwave could brings plagues of jellyfish and other warm water predators north to the British shores.
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Oh no! Does that mean that all the pensioners that 'retire' to Thailand will be coming back?!?
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| Richard_Sideways wrote: |
Oh no! Does that mean that all the pensioners that 'retire' to Thailand will be coming back?!? |
I have a friend pilot who hates doing long haul to Thailand because of the profile of his passengers
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You know it makes sense.
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@davidof, The dip could be explained by volcanism. Although the numbers were similar in adjacent years, their locations might be relevant.
There were 3 large eruptions on a Volcano (Mount Spur) in Alaska in 1992. The ash cloud reached 10 miles high.
This could have had an effect on the jet stream during that period, upsetting weather patterns for Europe.
Plus Mount St Helens in late 1990 sent up a massive amount of dust, which may have had an effect in the following years.
Found this site useful.
https://volcano.si.edu/faq/index.cfm?question=eruptionsbyyear&checkyear=1990
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Mount Pinatubo erupted in 1991, that had a bigger effect than any other volcano.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@brianatab, @rjs, ah well done guys
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| davidof wrote: |
From 1980 we see 6 major peaks at 83, 87, 98, 2010, 2017 and now at 2025. Every peak is a bit more severe than the last. The only way is up though. Currently
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Sun spot cycles are known phenomena which are known to affect global weather patterns (and in particular El Nino / North Atlantic Oscillation). Though there is going to be natural variations and events like volcanoes on top of that.
Certainly the rising sea temperature are a concern for skiers (good news for North Sea surfers). Interesting topic!
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Going into another winter with exceptional warm surface sea temperatures is a concern for any air masses from the west. The last couple of seasons has actually delivered heavy snow at altitude but temperatures have been marginal. i think it’s a long time since truly low temperatures were last recorded in the Alps ? I wonder though if a very warm Atlantic might somehow make easterly set ups more likely ?
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| Peter S wrote: |
| ... I wonder though if a very warm Atlantic might somehow make easterly set ups more likely ? |
True, it could create blocking high which obstructs gulf stream
Which can lead to prolonged easterly
Might be cold, but also dry?
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@Peter S, last winters have seen a lot of moist south westerly air over the French alps
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| rjs wrote: |
| There was a recent report of a plague of octopii that were eating everything in crab and lobster pots. |
Octopuses is fine. Octopodes is the pedantic solution, being based on the Greek. Octopii which is a faux-Latinisation is, I'm afraid, just plain wrong!
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@James the Last, 
We must have a word with Admin for an emoji to represent being pedantic.....
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Octopusi is better. 
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Octopii is an incorrect spelling of a word that would be spelled Octopi if it actually existed...(I've used spelled, instead of spelt, so as not to upset non-British pedants).
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A rather hot 28c forecast here today in North Yorkshire but soon back to a max of 18 on Monday. Could do with some rain again now.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Octopii is an incorrect spelling of a word that would be spelled Octopi if it actually existed
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 epic pedantry
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You know it makes sense.
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Pedantry aside, I surfed on he West Coast of Ireland for 45 minutes in just boardshorts today. I didn’t feel at all cold, bring on this sea of fire I say…..
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| Peter S wrote: |
| A rather hot 28c forecast here today in North Yorkshire but soon back to a max of 18 on Monday. Could do with some rain again now. |
I would love 28c where I am in Provence, tbh.
It's been 35/37 and not dropping much in the evening. Sleep is not coming easy.
I was out on a hired road bike yesterday and had to leave at 6.45am to avoid the worst of it.
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If you are interested in the North Atlantic sea temperature anomalies, and its causes.
You should read andfollow Leo Simons. He is one of the top-10 global experts on this topic.
https://x.com/LeonSimons8?t=i_Vdpq-adWvUrb8wqmFqeg&s=09
He posts also on bluesky and LinkedIn.
He posts quite a bit about this topic. And gives good explanations that are understandable even for non-experts.
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I would love 28c where I am in Provence, tbh.
It's been 35/37 and not dropping much in the evening.
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We do make a ridiculous fuss about "hot weather" here in the UK.
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I would love 28c where I am in Provence, tbh.
It's been 35/37 and not dropping much in the evening.
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We do make a ridiculous fuss about "hot weather" here in the UK.
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@Origen, I'm afraid that I find it unpleasantly hot at the moment and don't find it particularly ridiculous to say so.
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It's the humidity that does it I think combined with our buildings not being designed for it
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Yes, humidity is important and, knowing little about it, I just did some googling and was astonished at the variation around the UK. Portsmouth and Newcastle high at the moment (in the 70s), London low (mid 30s). Suva, where I lived for a while, 98!
And yes, our buildings don't help. My top floor is notably hotter than the ground floor (because of poor roof space insulation) so in hot periods in the past I've slept downstairs, even if it involved carting stuff up and down. Also installed a ceiling fan in the top room when I converted that for a lodger to use (as he had no option to move downstairs to sleep). We don't have shutters in the UK - but also, we don't tend to open windows - walking up my street yesterday it was noticeable how few windows were open.
Having lived in some hot places (without air conditioning at home) I've also learnt that fans make a huge difference - I have three around my house and love them. They're cheap, use very little power and are very effective. Especially good in the kitchen for food prep activities though you have to be careful not to blow flour around. I've also learnt that complaining (even mental complaining) actually makes you feel hotter.
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depends where you look, of course. current met office forecast for london is for temperatures in the 20s (max 2 and humidity varying between 40 and 70. Temperature in my sitting room at present is 25, which is extremely pleasant. In winter I set the central heating at 20, or 22 if I'm feeling particularly wimpish but wear a lot more clothes! I like being able to have just a T-shirt, cropped trousers and bare feet. And of course there are few demands being made on me. People with no choice but to do strenuous manual labour have my sympathy.
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| Origen wrote: |
| We do make a ridiculous fuss about "hot weather" here in the UK. |
It's interesting how it varies culturally. Here in Austria, the current “hot weather” (around 33C) barely registers – it's just summer – but the heat warnings will start if it gets up towards 40C.
And I agree about the humidity. I thought I was just getting used to a warmer climate, and no longer able to tolerate low temperatures. I don't find today's heat too problematic, though I do try and stay out of the sun as much as possible. Night time temperatures (min 27.5C indoors, 18C outdoors) have not yet been high enough to need to open the window, as at this point the noise is more likely to keep me awake than the heat, but that may change if it gets hotter. In the winter, I keep the apartment at 23-24C, because 21C just feels a bit chilly, but I never would have done that in the UK. But when I was last in the UK in October, I thought the house was unbearably warm, only to check the thermostat and find it set to a very reasonable 20C.
However, the humidity here is currently 38% outside/44% inside, so nothing like the UK numbers above, and I think this is considerably easier to live with. The washing dries a lot faster too
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