 Poster: A snowHead
|
@NoMapNoCompass, the thread has not gone one way or the other, it's different people with different opinions.
@GreenDay, I would be surprised if we see her back but agree that the effort has been mega, for the whole season not just the last week or so.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
|
I only hope she has a swift recovery.
From the various reports it sounds like a complicated spiral fracture. But she has shown she is more than capable of coming back from the worst of the worst.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
|
@NoMapNoCompass, absolutely!
For those of you who do Facebook, I thought this interview illuminated clearly her attitude to risk. I don't think she's lying or even kidding herself. It's just her unusual, maybe unique, outlook on life.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1C9nXBT5xA/
|
|
|
|
|
|
You need to Login to know who's really who.
You need to Login to know who's really who.
|
|
@KSH, my mantra for my next trip may well be 'Be more like Lindsey Vonn'. although I will try not to injure myself in the same way.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
|
@Hells Bells, 
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
|
| NoMapNoCompass wrote: |
The point is that she more than likely took a riskier line because she knew that that she was going to lose time elsewhere on the course on account of her injury.
|
Pure guesswork on your part.
| Quote: |
To say that her injury was not inhibiting her in any way during the race is ludicrous when this clearly was the case in the practice run.
|
Clear to you perhaps, but she still put up the 3rd bets time on one of those training runs.
But then nobody is suggesting it wouldn't have inhibited her in any way.
| Quote: |
The commentary in this thread has gone from asking if it is wise to race with a fully ruptured ACL to denying that the same injury would have had any effect on her performance in the race and subsequent crash! |
Some people have indeed suggested the first. Nobody has suggested the second.
Most of the people who saw the crash are saying the last.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| alex_heney wrote: |
| But then nobody is suggesting it wouldn't have inhibited her in any way. |
AFAIK, elite athletes are never fully fit, as there's always something not quite right, so performance is always slightly inhibited / compromised even if it's only in terms physiological condition to withstand the most aggressive tactical moves.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
|
| KSH wrote: |
@NoMapNoCompass, absolutely!
For those of you who do Facebook, I thought this interview illuminated clearly her attitude to risk. I don't think she's lying or even kidding herself. It's just her unusual, maybe unique, outlook on life.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1C9nXBT5xA/ |
I think Vonn takes "Obsessive is the word that the lazy use to describe the dedicated" to a whole new level. "Foolhardy is the word that the cautious use to describe the fully committed" perhaps?
My take is that in the existential "bacon and eggs" question, Lindsey is the porcine warrior (committed) whilst her detractors are the eggs (merely involved).
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Although I respect her decision, I might rethink that if she turns out not being able even to walk properly for the rest of her life, let alone ski.
|
|
|
|
|
|
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
|
As I mentioned miles above, bonkersly brave and probably more bonkers and more brave than even her peers in Down Hill skiing. A stand out cross generational talent.
I can’t even begin to imagine what it takes. There was a documentary a few years ago by Michael Johnson (400m runner one) about speed events and what it takes. He thought the downhill skiers were the extreme of the people he spoke to.
The others I just don’t fathom is the free climbers - just bonkers!
|
|
|
|
|
|
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
|
No one has a crystal ball and every dangerous sport is dangerous. No participant thinks that the worst will happen to them or there wouldn't be any dangerous sports. Nikki Lauda didn't think he'd end up in a fireball. But when he got out of hospital he pretty quickly got back into a racing car.
Lindsey Vonn probably more than anyone else understood the risks, just look at how many times and how badly she's been injured prior to this comeback. I would have prefered that this didn't happen and she probably does too, but if she doesn't regret a thing then it's not our place to either.
It's certainly not our place to criticise her.
I sincerely hope she makes a full recovery and enjoys the rest of her life in peace knowing that she couldn't have done any more or tried any harder. Not many of us can aspire to that.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| KSH wrote: |
| Although I respect her decision, I might rethink that if she turns out not being able even to walk properly for the rest of her life, let alone ski. |
thats no reason not to respect her decision. every ski racer knows the risks
|
|
|
|
|
|
You know it makes sense.
|
|
@holidayloverxx, at that point, sorry if I didn't make that clear, I'd be looking at the matter from my point of view, not hers.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
|
Compartment syndrome is heavy duty sh=t
Easy to say
‘Compartment syndrome’
Very bad to experience
When blood supply is compromised, including valves, there’s more than just simple bone-repair going on.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Poster: A snowHead
|
|
@valais2, Let's hope it was diagnosed quick enough. She's certainly in the right place.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
|
|
|
|
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
|
She's hot, but reckless.
Way too old to be hooning icy trails at 100kph.
Muscles, power, strength, and balance are all decaying fast by the 40s.
Should have stayed retired.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You need to Login to know who's really who.
You need to Login to know who's really who.
|
|
@Whitegold, bollox.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
|
|
@Whitegold, wrong on every level you could manage, as usual
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
|
@KSH,
I'm no expert, but I have had an external fixation for 3.5 months on my forearm due to broken radius and ulna, and a smashed scaphoid. these things are used to totally immobilise all the relevant joints and are quite common.
Not sure about the fasciotomy though.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
@gixxerniknik, ouch. I hope you have a good/complete recovery.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Not an expert, my wife is... her take
Cross knee external fixation - her entire leg is immobile to prevent further damage. Critical to restore blood flow asap, hence the three multidisciplinary surgical procedures in a short period of time. These are all about managing the soft tissue damage, debridement and resolution of impaired blood supply to lower limb. There appears to be a fasciotomy with VAC concealed by the gown. Her foot looks normally perfused and a healthy colour which is a good sign.
Once the soft tissue, blood flow issues have resolved then her surgical team will perform further procedures to reduce the fracture and add internal fixation, possible bone grafts. Again this will likely be multiple procedures to achieve the best result.
Impossible to even hint at an outcome based on the limited knowledge of the case but she has a long recovery ahead of her.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
|
|
Imagine what she's going through now, let alone what she can expect in the future. Horrible.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
|
|
@KSH, It was quite a few years ago now and I did make a full recovery thanks. Rehab physio was a bit painfull afteer having part of your body immobile for 3.5 months.
|
|
|
|
|
|
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
|
|
@gixxerniknik, I bet! Glad you're well again.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I don't think we can look at whatever outcome she has from this accident (whatever that may be - I hope she has a full recovery) and use it to draw conclusions about what she should or shouldn't have done. Dangerous sports like ski racing, motor racing, free solo climbing, mountaineering, base jumping etc etc...there are plenty of examples of life altering and in some cases life ending consequences. But that is also true of driving on the motorway. Or even an accident at home which kills thousands of people in the UK every year. Life is risk, we just have to be happy with our own approach to it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You know it makes sense.
|
|
@Whitegold, take a look at the female world cup rankings for womens downhill this season. Who is ranked no.1 based on performances up to the Olympics? Oh, its Lindsey Vonn
|
|
|
|
|
|
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
|
|
@gra, +1
|
|
|
|
|
|
Poster: A snowHead
|
|
@valais2, from looking at stuff online, she has had compartment syndrome, hence several surgeries.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
|
|
|
|
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
|
|
@belette, good post.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You need to Login to know who's really who.
You need to Login to know who's really who.
|
| gixxerniknik wrote: |
| @Whitegold, bollox. |
Lol.
She was out of the sport for halfadecade.
Her right knee was mashed.
Her left knee got mashed a couple weeks ago.
Her left ACL was mashed.
She had to wear a kneebrace to race.
She was old and in her 40s.
She mis-jumped and panicked.
Her leg is mashed.
Rumors now that her leg may get chopped off.
The decision to compete was beyond reckless.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
|
@Whitegold, congratulations on enhancing your reputation as the biggest c**t on this forum 
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
|
| Je suis un Skieur wrote: |
| @Whitegold, congratulations on enhancing your reputation as the biggest c**t on this forum |
I think we should all agree not to feed the troll.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
@tsgsh, indeed....
KERCRAAASH!!!!
The sound of the tone being lowered.
Lyndsey Vonn's rehabilitation and accidents are certainly worth thinking about and discussing, not least when this hits interesting research on sports psychology, injury and rehabilitation.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
@whitegold, She is indeed in her 40s, and is leading the world cup downhill rankings this season, based on this seasons performances.
Yes she blew her ACL a week before but was still one of the fastest in training and you won't find any of her peers disputing her right to be there.
She followed her career approach of taking the fastest racing line possible, and in her words misjudged it by 5 inches (at 60-70 mph) - unfortunately for her she caught the gate in the process & the rest is history.
Her decision to compete shows a bravery & commitment & willingness to do things the armchair critics could not even comprehend, and should be celebrated & commended IMHO.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
|
|
@gra, my words, except I would have left out the resonse to @whitetwat at the beginning.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
@Steilhang, lol you're right!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
FAQ
