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Hintertux is open but it's bad news from Saas Fee and Tignes... 
A two week summer season in Tignes  I haven't checked on Zermatt...
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Mon 1-08-22 20:08; edited 1 time in total
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Zermatt is in theory still open - and was earlier this week. However it was closed today because of the poor condition of the snow. God only knows how they will get through to October.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| JohnMo wrote: |
| Zermatt is in theory still open - and was earlier this week. However it was closed today because of the poor condition of the snow. God only knows how they will get through to October. |
They are due to hold World Cup racing in October & November.
https://www.zermatt.ch/en/World-Cup
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Given how little snow Saas-Fee had last season, and how much summer business training camps generate, I’m not surprised access is restricted.
I only summer skied once at Saas-Fee about 30 years ago, and back then you could ski from the top lifts down to below the Felskinn top station, and they had a button lift to take you up to the lower tunnel exit from the Metro. Prior to the Metro being built in the late 80’s, the summer ski area was based around Felskinn 
These days the summer snow line is kilometres further up the mountain, and they are fighting glacier retreat to keep the pistes between the top and mid stations open.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Les Deux Alpes is finishing early. Last day this Sunday
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| Meanwhile Banff opened into July |
Good for them. Meanwhile, it's clearly the worst summer ski season ever in the Alps 
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@mountainaddict, but on the flip side, it’s an awesome mountain biking season in the Alps this year.
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Whether you believe in climate change or not, this is hardly surprising.
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Surely everybody believes in climate change nowadays??
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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For all of 3 days...wow
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@MaxiD, not sure everyone does, certainly not some aspiring toryscum leaders ...
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Given the crazy temperatures forecast next weekend it seems unlikely there will be glacier skiing anywhere. Is the Saas Fee metro still open for access to the Allalinhorn etc? After recent events on the Marmaloda not sure I would fancy going up the "normal" track to the Feejoch, there is a big lump of ice above just under the summit.
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You know it makes sense.
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Doesn't look great on the Grande Motte
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@AB Ski, Hard to imagine that summer skiing is sometimes possible in July and August, looking at that!
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Hard to imagine that summer skiing is sometimes possible in July and August, looking at that! |
In normal years, the glacier looks like the pic above by the end of August - not mid July. Prior to then, it's usually all nice and white and snow covered, with decent conditions (for summer) in June and most of July.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Both Tignes and Les 2 Alpes have closed early. I've been looking at the webcams for Zermatt (consider a trip in September) and it looks dire...
Similar situation for snow loss in the Pyrenees: http://skiflightfree.org/breche-de-roland-2010-v-2022/
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@iainm, i'm due in to ski (from Cervinia) in August.
There's a post in the Zermatt thread from someone that's just been there that said the piste condition is as good as it has been the last couple of summers.
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While the trend is undeniable I'm not sure that a simple comparison of photos is necessarily that probative in so far as it may be contingent on how much snow fell the season before etc
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@8611, That is very true. The real question is how much earlier is this happening because of man made climate change.
About 25 to 30k years ago, the glaciers around the Tarentaise reached Lyon or thereabouts.
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| chocksaway wrote: |
@8611, That is very true. The real question is how much earlier is this happening because of man made climate change.
About 25 to 30k years ago, the glaciers around the Tarentaise reached Lyon or thereabouts. |
and when William invaded England in 1066 the alps were largely glacier free.
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I’ve posted this before, but here it is again. It’s not the change in temperature that is the issue, after all we are technically coming out of an ice age, it’s the speed of the change. If you can’t be bothered to scan it all, just skip to the bottom…….
https://xkcd.com/1732/
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Vallee not so Blanche today
Photo: Serge Koenig
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Depends what you call "normal".
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Fair point Davidof. I was referring to my experience of Tignes in July since about 2007. IIRC, the current position is unprecedented in that time.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Was at the rail station in Morteratsch two years ago (part of a MTB transalp). They have a path that leads from the station up to the glacier, with signs that mark the end of the glacier over the years. Back when the station was built in 18xx the glacier effectively came as far as the station. Now it's nearly 3Km up the valley. I have done the ski run from Diavolezza down the glacier to the Morteratsch station about 30 years ago. Not sure if that's even possible anymore.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Sadly, Zermatt now closed as well.. |
That's another shocker... 
Here's hoping for better next summer.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@davidof, Are those photos taken in different years? If so, when?
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Looks like Hintertux is the only place still going. Website says they have 7 lifts open, with 25cm of snow. Find that hard to believe, guess it depends on how you define 'snow'. Last snowfall was so long ago the website has forgotten when it was...
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| sugarmoma666 wrote: |
| @davidof, Are those photos taken in different years? If so, when? |
that's about 30 years melt
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pictures on the left say 2003 and 2022 and on the right 2005 and 2022
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last time I was in SF it was like your middle picture, around 1997 I think. It was October and open and the director of the ski lifts invited me skiing but I was on business and didn't have time. I clearly missed an opportunity.
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