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If there was a glitch and they knew they had oversold then why continue to sell to "walk ups"?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Cheap online ticketing system - electronic ticket with QR code issued to phone. Ticket can be shown to lifties for visual check, plus they can do random checks by scanning the QR code (to weed-out any chancers who have a screenshot of their mates ticket). That should work?? And fraction of cost of installing actual gates.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| JimboS wrote: |
| If there was a glitch and they knew they had oversold then why continue to sell to "walk ups"? |
Just speculation, we don’t actually know that was the case..
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A QR code on your phone simply isn't going to work at Glenshee. Taking your phone out of your pocket in the horizontal sleet isnt going to be a solution
The Lecht have installed a ski data ticketing system that can be recharged online - a barrier at the bottom of each lift scans your pass that is in your pocket (the same as in most of Europe). It works really well.
I just dont understand why Glenshee and Glencoe have introduced online ticketing, but you still need to queue up to get your ticket - totally pointless.
If all the centres had a ski data system, you would only need one ski card and could recharge it for whichever ski centre you wanted to visit that day.
I am a huge supporter of Scottish skiing, but Glenshee's 'online' ticketing just smacks of "the punters have always queued up to buy a ticket, so why would we change that".
It is the year 2022 - why on earth would anyone need to queue up for a lift pass, other than first timers who are buying their first ski data rechargable card??
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On a more positive note. Now I've moved a bit further north, only 47miles from Glenshee, I've been thinking about a season pass for next season. The break even for number of trips would be 10. Say total cost of £325 for pass and fuel for 10 trips £120.
My rules for a ski day in Glenshee are.
Not first bluebird day.
Not the weekend
Not school holidays.
Not low cloud or fog.
Not high wind.
At least 50% of area open.
Given I have total flexibility other than 3 weeks in the Alps over Jan, Feb, and March.
What do you think the chances are of 10 days that fit the above criteria?
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@JimboS, season passes in Scotland are only for locals who get discounts and can get there on an afternoon for when the weather changes. Of course, every rule has exceptions, and for some who are prepared to ski in any condition with limited uplifts and when there are long queues, season passes are good value!
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@JimboS, the fuel cost probably shouldn't be factored in to the break-even calculation as you'd be paying that regardless of the type of pass you had.
I think on average you'd get more than 10 days out of a season pass (within your criteria) but it would vary between less than 10 and more than 10 depending on how good the season was. A lot of the days might be consecutive - would you really want to ski them all?
>50% of the area open might be problematic, depending on how you define that. I've found Glenshee a bit slow to open up beyond the middle of the middle valley, and there are often days where the Cairnwell / Butcharts, Sunnyside and Tom Dearg / Cluny are open but nothing beyond that.
Weekends and school holidays are not always as bad as you might think; it depends on what the snow / weather / crowds have been like in previous days, and what conditions are like at the other ski centres.
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Yeah I agree, the Glenshee system for booking seems to be as well as walk ups. Like you I thought they set a hill capacity and sold those tickets , odd.
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A QR code on your phone simply isn't going to work at Glenshee. Taking your phone out of your pocket in the horizontal sleet isnt going to be a solution
The Lecht have installed a ski data ticketing system that can be recharged online - a barrier at the bottom of each lift scans your pass that is in your pocket (the same as in most of Europe). It works really well. |
Other way round in my mind - I can’t see it being practical or economic for Glenshee to implement gates at all their lifts scattered across the ‘3 valleys’. Whereas most folk have their phone out of the their pocket regularly anyway to check messages etc…. So I don’t see that being a showstopper.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@paulo, Also, you would only really need to show it at the carpark level lifts.
But, playing devil's advocate, I would find accessing and showing it easy. A beginner on a snowboard faffing at the front of Sunnyside queues? Less so.
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| GreenDay wrote: |
@paulo, Also, you would only really need to show it at the carpark level lifts.
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That's probably true. Elsewhere, the only people reasonably able to steal rides will be those with touring kit.
Additionally, as someone may have alluded to earlier, weather conditions are quite unlike the Alps, and skidata barriers/card readers would frequently become gummed up and gubbed with a concrete like neve where horizontal sleet freezes in place.
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You know it makes sense.
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cracking pic from Glencoe yesterday! Assume top to bottom skiing available.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Really good day at Glencoe today. A strong south easterly breeze but good visibility in the afternoon and fast dry granular snow. Could ski to within a 10minute walk to the car park. Ben Nevis looking spectacular 
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Poster: A snowHead
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| JimboS wrote: |
On a more positive note. Now I've moved a bit further north, only 47miles from Glenshee, I've been thinking about a season pass for next season. The break even for number of trips would be 10. Say total cost of £325 for pass and fuel for 10 trips £120.
My rules for a ski day in Glenshee are.
Not first bluebird day.
Not the weekend
Not school holidays.
Not low cloud or fog.
Not high wind.
At least 50% of area open.
Given I have total flexibility other than 3 weeks in the Alps over Jan, Feb, and March.
What do you think the chances are of 10 days that fit the above criteria? |
@JimboS A Glenshee Season Ticket also gets you 30% off a day pass at Lecht, Nevis Range and Glencoe. Which comes in very handy once Glenshee shuts for the Season, and Glencoe and Nevis Range still have a few weeks of their Season left. For instance Monday to Friday it'll get you a day pass at Glencoe for £18
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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On a more positive note. Now I've moved a bit further north, only 47miles from Glenshee, I've been thinking about a season pass for next season. The break even for number of trips would be 10. Say total cost of £325 for pass and fuel for 10 trips £120.
My rules for a ski day in Glenshee are.
Not first bluebird day.
Not the weekend
Not school holidays.
Not low cloud or fog.
Not high wind.
At least 50% of area open.
Given I have total flexibility other than 3 weeks in the Alps over Jan, Feb, and March.
What do you think the chances are of 10 days that fit the above criteria?
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Tricky criteria! Based on those I don't think you'd have skied at Glenshee so far this season, so would be a struggle to get the 10 days this year..
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@JimboS, Assume Glencoe is a lot further away for you as it seems to have a consistently longer season than Glenshee (purely anecdotal)
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@kitenski, yes, 2h30m to Glencoe for me and only 1h20 to Glenshee.
This year I think there is zero change of break even and even on a good year could be touch and go as probably the week before and after Alps trips would most likely be blocked off too.
Will just see how the next few seasons go. As was said above, the season pass probably works best for locals and the hard core.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Backcountryboarder, good to know , I wasn't aware of that.
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@paulo, yes, I'm sure you're right.
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Back in the late 90s and early 00s when my kids were doing comps up north we were out there in some horrendous conditions. Pretty sure we could have been classed as hard core back then, but not any more, conditions have to be at least "reasonable" to tempt me up.
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Was up Glencoe yesterday and would say the online purchasing helped with the speed of the queue collecting tickets, compared to what went on before. There was a QR code scanner that then pumped out your tickets. If it didn't read correctly then folk were being sent to next window with a short queue to be dealt with. I would say queuing time was at least half what it would normally be for that number of people in the car park. Yes, a zero touch system would be better, as described above, but this is an improvement.
Snow conditions were not great, after what sounded fantastic on Friday, but at least there is good coverage on the upper mountain now. After a thaw/freeze it was pretty hard off piste on the top mountain area and never really softened, though some were venturing onto Spring Run by the end of the day. I heard it was pretty hard still in the early afternoon. Was poor visibility up top in the morning and clag only lifted in the afternoon from main basin etc. That all being said, it was a big relief to finally be able to put some planks on and have some fun. And good to talk to lots of others with same view after so long...
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Good forecast for skiing this week in Scotland
With the Cairnwell triple chair now running there shouldn’t be any lift queues at Glenshee this week.
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Pleasantly surprised to find an email back from Glenshee (found in junk so received on Sunday). Apologizing for delays agreed with my request of a partial refund and are apparently sending £10 back per ticket. They said delay was due to having to scroll through 1300 bookings each time they were giving out a ticket to find names!
I'm no manager but I'm sure they could have come up with a more effective way to deal with their technology failure on the day.
Annoyingly she did say that everyone could have used both ticket desks- if there had been someone managing the queue on the day (like the ski patrol guy who was busy telling us to complain to the council) I'm sure it would have been a bit quicker.
Well they must have been the 2 most expensive ski runs I have ever done! 
However pleased I even got a reply to my email and even more surprised they are in process of refunding me £20 as their social media response appeared to be to delete everything and pretend it hadn't happened.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I know, great day to be staying in waiting on a garden furniture delivery, eh !
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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We’re thinking of doing a week in Scotland later this month and maybe getting some skiing in if circumstances allow. If not we’ll just have a tour of the area.
However, looking at the online ticket booking site for glencoe, it won’t be possible as there are lines through the days I’m thinking of. I think therefore there’s no prospect of skiing there which is a shame 
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Poster: A snowHead
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@bambionskiis, I'm pretty sure that Glencoe won't be fully booked throughout March and April at the weekends, let alone midweek. Much more likely that they'll only make the call to sell tickets online if they think it's going to be busy, or worth doing so, and that will entirely depend on weather, existing snow cover and interest closer to the time.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Ah right thanks moffatross I assumed it was fully booked. I’ll keep an eye on how things progress then.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@bambionskiis, in years past, on good midweek snow days in March and April, I've skied at Glencoe in the company of perhaps 20 or so other ticket holders
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Good times . Hope we’re that lucky
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You’ll be fine , they just won’t have out any online tickets on hence the line through the days. April hols are first 2 weeks for Scottish schools which might increase numbers a wee bit
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So funny that ppl try skiing in Scotland 
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@Ionizingskin, what an odd comment to post on a thread about skiing in Scotland. I don’t think I’ve seen anyone suggest it’s anything like an “alps experience” if that’s what your thinking I’m thinking, but we have various reasons at the moment why we can’t go abroad. So faced with either no skiing or skiing in Scotland, I’ll make plans and try and make it work thanks. I’ll keep an open mind.
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Light winds and a decent fall of snow from the south and east forecast for Glenshee. That would be a good direction for them. Should be a great week for skiing
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Ah yes it's so steep I do believe that sunnyside at glenshee is widely regarded as second only to kitzbuhel in terms of downhill course notoriety. Unfortunately spent many a time 'learning' in scotland how to ski. Bit like learning how to swim in a big puddle.
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