@Fat George, The two instructors are using similar words to describe different things IMV.
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
^Does it really matter. Is it surprising.
I find ski jargons are a terrible handicap to understanding because English is my first language.
Perhaps I shouldn't have missed 'terminology wars' off my list of boring things that continue to happen in the skiing world over time.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
@Fat George, It matters if you are trying to take a single idea from the two videos.
^Not surprising though. Myself, faced with the same problem, I just try to understand what they are getting at and see how that compares and contrasts and see if there is a single idea. Or not.
I hope not to suffer unduly about the inconvenience of differences in different people's descriptions of skiing . .
. . . let alone the differences in the same person's different descriptions of skiing . . .
. . . which I think are inevitable in the English-speaking world, and the USA, until, Vonn day, all vill obey ze orders of ZentralSkiKontroll viz Respekt to ze Glossary of Skiing Terms (in Deutsch: an English issue will not be forthcoming as it is like herding cats. q.v. Wedel; Schuss. You are nearly halfway there already.). On pain of confiscation of ze SkiPass.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
I've seen a lot of tips in my time, to help with skiing - but this one is new to me:
I'm going to take exception to this. He is not 'forward' he is balanced. To be forward, would be to imply that he would topple over if he didn't have his skis on - which he wouldn't. He's compact?? I don't have a better word.
The position could be described as standing in your living room and about to jump two-footed onto the coffee table. The correct stance is just before you take off. Maybe you would be on the balls of your feet?
Also, you tend to shift backwards at points during a turn. Being forward throughout would not end well.
I agree that too many skiers are upright but looking for an antonym didn't come up with anything appropriate!
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Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
@Klamm Franzer, You can get bogged down in the language - and I agree it's confusing - but I suppose it's to differentiate between Upright and balanced and in a more Athletic/Dynamic balanced position.
Many people are more upright when skiing than they realise - and this is a kind of Reality Check, so as you can experience the correct position.
I was trying to decide if it's a sensible idea - or bollox - which is why I posted it.
After all it is free
After all it is free
@Old Fartbag, I think he looks too forward to me, but maybe that's just the Bulgarian style (and I haven't seen it so often?)
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Old Fartbag wrote:
@Klamm Franzer, You can get bogged down in the language - and I agree it's confusing - but I suppose it's to differentiate between Upright and balanced and in a more Athletic/Dynamic balanced position.
Many people are more upright when skiing than they realise - and this is a kind of Reality Check, so as you can experience the correct position.
I was trying to decide if it's a sensible idea - or bollox - which is why I posted it.
I would describe his position as "low" or "ready" or "flexed" rather than forward but there is an element of semantics here.
Where I think I agree with him is that I think good performance skiing tends to come from a lower rather than taller stance. Yet I hear some instructor advocate standing tall which I really disagree with. Personally I find that if my skiing is off then moving to a more flexed and aggressive stance is a good first step to raising my game. From a flexed position you can easily flick your skis into a new direction with a quick up unweight. You are so "ready". You have so many options. You can be so dynamic. When conditions are tight or tricky, the low, "ready" stance is your friend.
Usual disclaimers apply - I'm not an instructor and I haven't had a lot of instruction.
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Agreed. During the last season in which I ski'd, I tried 2 things. First was to extend my down hill leg more and second was to tip my inside knee to initiate the turn. Neither worked.
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Are we sure this video wasn’t posted 28 days ago?
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
Pejoli wrote:
Are we sure this video wasn’t posted 28 days ago?
Anything's possible, but I don't think so.
There was a video from the same crowd, with a backward facing snowplough - but that was a different topic.
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I was sort of joking, but it does seem a bit bizarre - surely you'd get the same sense of a good dynamic body position from doing bunny hops in a traverse - with some feedback on your fore-aft balance thrown in for free. And looking less like a numpty from the lifts ...
You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
Pejoli wrote:
I was sort of joking, but it does seem a bit bizarre - surely you'd get the same sense of a good dynamic body position from doing bunny hops in a traverse - with some feedback on your fore-aft balance thrown in for free. And looking less like a numpty from the lifts ...
I can only assume, that the athletic, dynamic movements needed to hop uphill - helps with getting the feeling/body positions of what is required for active, dynamic skiing.
If I did it, I would probably need to see an Osteopath before continuing.
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
To start off the coming season, here is the new Video from TDK racing, covering an aspect talked about many times - Speed Control.
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I hope @skimottaret doesn't mind if I repost this again here - as I personally find it helpful to have all interesting instructional videos in one reference thread, as it makes them easier to find:
@Old Fartbag, popped up in my YouTube feed just now and thought I'd share it but it's already up. I actually do this on my board but sometimes still have to bail if the piste is narrow, it's very easy to keep gaining a little bit of speed with each turn if you start too fast.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Another good breakdown of what is one of the most common mistakes made - and one of the most talked about topics discussed on here:
There's no particularly detailed breakdown on short turns, but more a conversation about what they're thinking and trying to work on in their own training for their Level 4 exams.
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Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
^ wrecking the beautiful corduroy with skidded turns
After all it is free
After all it is free
Another very interesting Video from Tom Gellie - Part 1 of taking a very competent, but more Old School skier and starts transforming how she thinks about skiing and translating that into her performance.
I find that these 2 videos are interesting, because I think Tom Gellie takes one issue raised in the first video (how to achieve higher edge angles/inclination and toppling) and expands on it further ie. Not trying to get high edge angles by stretching out the Outside Leg, which can cause too much weight dropping onto the inside leg and isn't what gives high edge angles while remaining in balance.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
Stance:
Here is a very decent advanced skier, doing controlled Short Turns and looking good to my eye....but Deb Armstrong points to subtle adjustments that can be made to stance and flex, that will bring an improvement. It just shows, that we all need a tune up from time to time on the basics.
This idea is something if never really heard but I’ve been playing with it the last couple of days and it’s super helpful. It seems a great way of keeping your posture over the outside ski while reaching for more edge angle
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
@jedster, It's good to know that people are getting practical benefit from this thread.
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
I find this video interesting, as it attempts to show the linking and progression of Parallel Skiing through the different levels....and how, maybe surprisingly, Level 3 Carving is actually closer to the movements in the Snowplough, than it is to the Up Unweighting of Level 2. The highlighting of similarity of the "Turning Action" of the outside leg in a Plough to that in a Level 3 Parallel Turn, was something I first saw in Ali Ross's "How we learned to ski".
He says they teach Kids, to go straight from Wedging to Carving....which may be similar to the way Adults are taught in some countries and in some systems.
@Old Fartbag, Very interesting. And relevant to previous discussions on this forum about the wedge, with some suggesting it is a useless waste of time and of no benefit beyond day 1 on skis. I have always maintained the opposite/ The wedge is indeed a good tool for beginners as it embeds he right use of pressure whilst keep speed controlled, and is very stable (more forgiving of mistakes with balance). But it is also a very powerful tool for advanced skiers, for fine tuning aspects of the carved turn and the short turn.
I train with the wedge a lot, as does my ski racer daughter. And your video helps to explain why that is!
I also found this video: "Here is a short Performance Analysis of a junior ski racer using Vegas Movie Studio 15.0 Platinum. As a reference we have no less than one of the best WC skiers ever, Henrik Kristoffersen.
The aim here is not to point out flaws and mistakes but instead look for differences and similarities. The best thing to do is to compare to the best there is. That's when video and some editing skills comes in handy. Many use The Coach’s Eye and I do it also but somehow I find the Movie Studio Platinum easier to work with and for what I do anyway.
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to understanding because English is my first language.
