 Poster: A snowHead
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Went through Zurich this morning and used the self service machine. First question was do you have resident permit or longstay visa? Had to answer No as a France 6 month D visa starts tomorrow. Much quicker having self serviced, only a few in front. No stamp.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@colinstone, It might be quicker today but repeat that during school holidays.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@colinstone, wouldn't you have had to answer No anyway, even tomorrow? A French long-stay D visa still only permits a 90 in 180 stay in other Schengen countries, so isn't a residence permit or long-stay visa for Swizerland.
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| munich_irish wrote: |
| Frankfurt this morning EES in operation, big queues for non EU, e gates busier than have seen before (perhaps just a busy day). No sign of a staffed EU lane (for families etc) just one big queue. |
Just flown out of the new terminal which is absolutely miles away if you land at the far end of terminal 1 on your transfer. They have loads and loads of scanners in departures. 60 or 70 or them I'd say.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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They’re all top of the travel list then.
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Went through barcelona on Friday. Scanned my passport then the machine sent me to the e-gates. Others were doing fingerprintsl
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Marco Polo pretty smooth this morning- EES booths at the entrance to the airport not busy (although the ones by the actual departure area slightly busier) and worked well. It was some of the parties 1st EES trip but even they got through the machines very smoothly with minimal delay.
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@ecureuil, I am pretty sure that a FR long stay visa "D" visa works across Schengen and should exempt from the EES stuff as bio's have already been taken. Swiss Douane commented on it on my way out at Zurich.
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No fingerprints at barcelona on the way out. I guess I'm not registered
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No EES outbound at the Channel Tunnel the other day (I know that EES there is not operational) but son did not receive a stamp in the passport which will be interesting when returning through Gare du Nord tomorrow.
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@Hurdy, shouldn't be a problem, as the passport would have been scanned on the way out anyway, so they know when they departed.
its not much different with having the passport scanned and then biometrics taken, as far as i am aware the biometrics are just confirming passport and passenger are one and the same.
it does seem to be a mix and match at the moment, i went on a coach trip to Normandy on a d-day visit last weekend, out via dover-calais and back via the eurotunnel.
both times off the coach and through the EES buildings for coach parties, my passport was scanned and fingerprints and photo taken, but some others on the coach had no fingerprints taken on the way out, whilst others did not have theirs taken on the way back 
though on my return i did notice the new EES "shed" at calais (its the other side of pet reception area) where the new terminals are situated, as i had not noticed this before.
i saw a youtube clip this morning where Simon Calder mentioned about Greece postponing EES, and possibly Italy/Portugal and spain doing the same (not sure if this has been confirmed or not, as there were reports about them doing it as well). he is predicting that it will all be pushed back by the EU until early autumn, to get it all up and running correctly, as more and more EU countries, T/O's and airlines are complaining about long delays.
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At some point will they admit they cant get it to work properly or just keep pretending .
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You know it makes sense.
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Maybe aircraft fuel shortages will make it easier to do the EES checks.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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The main word there is "shouldn't"....I've got a residence permit for France but most of the other EU countries don't know what to do with it which ends up in discussions of whether I need to go through the EES process or not. This includes when I leave and enter France...the county that provided my permit.
Last edited by Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name: on Thu 7-05-26 7:50; edited 1 time in total
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Poster: A snowHead
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| rjs wrote: |
| Maybe aircraft fuel shortages will make it easier to do the EES checks. |
Might be less flights overall but those that fo will be totally full so individual queue longer
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@robs1, I haven't been on a flight that wasn't full for years
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| holidayloverxx wrote: |
| @robs1, I haven't been on a flight that wasn't full for years |
I have, several times.
Both ways on my ski trip this year Cardiff - Salzburg & return (7tth/15th Jan), plane was about 3/4 full.
Last year Bristol - Lyon and return Marseille to Bristol (October), about 3/4 full on the way out, fuller on the way back, but still some empty seats.
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bug, Portugal and Italy arent suspending it. Greece it is then.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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First trip under EES this week (as our last ski trip was LeShuttle) - BHX <> AMS (Schipol)...
Entry - Mon late pm - absolutely no disruption - in fact the path from EES terminals entered the main passport stream half way down and it might have even saved time
Exit - late Weds evening - EES cost us less time than the guy in front of us at the border guard station who insisted on his rights to not tell them where he had been, how long he'd stayed etc. Certainly cost us less than 5 mins
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Interesting arrival on kos (Greece) tonight. No egates in use no biometric data taken’ but no stamp in passport either.
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Just back from a week in Menorca, and EES very efficient*. Scan passport at a terminal; if already in the system go straight to an e-gate, and if not provide your biometrics and go to a manned booth. Same on exit.
*but long queues for return baggage drop, where checking-in online in advance seems to offer no advantage as everyone is in the same queue.
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@ecureuil, this why I am baffled by my barcelona experience last week. Scanned passport and directed to the egates. First time at a scanner, they dont have my fingerprints
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| colinstone wrote: |
| @ecureuil, I am pretty sure that a FR long stay visa "D" visa works across Schengen and should exempt from the EES stuff as bio's have already been taken. Swiss Douane commented on it on my way out at Zurich. |
Pretty sure the FR long stay D visa is "long-stay" for FR only, and the 90 in 180 restriction still applies for the rest of Schengen, at least in theory. https://france-visas.gouv.fr/visa-de-long-sejour
Agree that the EES stuff may work, and may calculate your 90 day count automatically if you fly in-out from the UK. I could see it being a problem if you cross internal Schengen borders without getting a stamp, although I don't know how you can even get one at most crossings. How would you prove you haven't been in CH or other non-FR Schengen countries for more than 90 days in the last 180?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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The problem seems to be, according to Simon Calder the other week, is that each country has been allowed to implement the process as they seem fit, instead of there being a standardised approach across the EU.
So unless this is changed soon, it is still going to be a clusterf!!k, hopefully it is standardised so it can start running more efficiently.
Will see what happens during the busy summer holiday period
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Yes, Doccam, it seems some officials allow non-EU spouses to go through EU gates with EU spouses, and some don't.
And you never know which type of official you're going to get.
We try the Old Doddery and Confused card which seems to work sometimes, but really it's just pot luck.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Weathercam, thank you for that - there may be hope for us after all
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Blimey I thought our government could mess up IT systems, what a mess, they've had several years to work out the rules, even if they tech is troublesome the rules should be simple to work out
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Then we (I) ran out of fuel at 1.30am driving to the house 