 Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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From food grade to foot grade. Nice.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Nice just saw something similar in a ski boot store for 30 Euros. Of course call it premium ski boot lube and mark it up.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Might be worth giving rear entry a go if you're using something like that
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I have perfectly fitting boots, but on day 1 of a trip I struggled terribly to get the boot on. Once on I couldn't fasten strap no 3.
Nothing seemed to be wrong but it very much was.
At lunch I could stand it no more and pulled the foot bed and then the liner out.
I'd moaned so much that all the party were watching. There was much hilarity as I removed a small bottle of contact lens cleaner.
Must have dropped in during my end of season clean.
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Different socks ?
I have two makes of socks I take with me.
One make it's much easier to get my boots on.
The ski room that we were in a couple of weeks ago did have a silicon spray available and I did see one person using it.
It didn't click at the time it was to help get their boots on.
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| Belch wrote: |
2nd trip this year and I was not to be defeated - a little quirt of this (onto the back of the liner) and deep joy; instant access . . . |
I'm confused. are you removing the liner every night then putting it on first and trying get your foot+liner into the boot together?
I recall some touring boots which were designed to do that, in reverse at least, to use the inner around the hut in the evening, but it's absolutely not the way it's normally done.
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Lube jokes aside lol -
@Chaletbeauroc, @Garfield, Using the same perfectly fitting Falke SK4 ski socks (have 6x pairs) but for some unexplained reason one boot was simply inaccessible. Checked everything and even bought one of the those 'shuvvie' tool things (with extended arm - they're actually quite good for different lazy reasons) to really pull the shell apart but with no success other than pain and anguish.
Did some research and discovered boot sprays (primarily in the US) like 'Slide On / Easy On' used to be marketed - this is basically food grade silicone. By spraying a small amount on the inside rear of the liner itself (already in the shell), my foot, (the sock heel being the friction point) with a little effort slipped in like a seasoned porn star!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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So you're putting the silicone between sock and liner? I wonder what that does to the sock material, must build-up over time, and it's terrible to wash off.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Chaletbeauroc wrote: |
| So you're putting the silicone between sock and liner? I wonder what that does to the sock material, must build-up over time, and it's terrible to wash off. |
Literally a little squirt on the inside back of the liner where your heel connects / adds pressure to the ankle when inserting foot 'around the bend' of the boot - its food grade which after discussing with someone in the know is the safest silicone application . . .
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Bring your boots into your bedroom and put them beside the radiator? Cold boots are always difficult to get on or off.
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You know it makes sense.
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@Gordyjh, Did all that . . .honestly my boots are finely honed with minimal if any tolerance - once on, they fit like a glove - lube was the answer!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| Chaletbeauroc wrote: |
| So you're putting the silicone between sock and liner? I wonder what that does to the sock material, must build-up over time, and it's terrible to wash off. |
Not to mention the risk of the sock soaking it up and turning any hard flooring into an ice rink....or maybe not, I'd definitely want to tread carefully though
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Poster: A snowHead
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Are you certain the silicone or its propelant will have no effect on the liner? Why not use a "boot bib"? I got one recently as despite (or maybe because of) my new boots excellent fit, getting them on was a complete pain. Very easy now with the bib.
https://www.bootbib.com/
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| adithorp wrote: |
Are you certain the silicone or its propelant will have no effect on the liner? Why not use a "boot bib"? I got one recently as despite (or maybe because of) my new boots excellent fit, getting them on was a complete pain. Very easy now with the bib.
https://www.bootbib.com/ |
Pleased to hear that. I picked one up at S&R for around £9. Seems expensive for a bit of plastic but if it does the trick will be worth it. I usually manage OK but my daughter has been known to struggle.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@Belch, Probably not the boots or socks- feet can swell with a bit of fluid retention. Tell tale for subtle swelling is indentation from socks at day’s end.
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| Doccam wrote: |
| @Belch, Probably not the boots or socks- feet can swell with a bit of fluid retention. Tell tale for subtle swelling is indentation from socks at day’s end. |
I have quite significant but inconsistent fluid retention, even in the mornings, i.e. not wholly due to gravity. Medical science is mildly puzzled, if not going so far as baffled. The sock indentations are not subtle.
My solution is a double layer of tubigrip up to the top of the ski socks when I get up. By the time I put my boots on everything is fine. I tighten them one notch on the third and fourth buckles between 10 and 11 and may do the third one more time at lunch if it's cold.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@adithorp, Have been informed that the food grade stuff is fine . . and is exactly as the 'easy on' product available in the US . . .however do like the look of that bootbib . . .if only that (and if it works as well) they look lighter and less agg that lugging spray as well as having a dual function / being easily stowable etc - cheers
@Doccam, Do get some swelling at the end of the day due to kranked up buckles but not noticeably in the mornings . . .like I say my boots are 'tight' however never had this problem during the first season of use / when originally fitted.
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Does silicon spray work just as well for those of us "worldcupping" into our boots?
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| hang11 wrote: |
| Might be worth giving rear entry a go if you're using something like that |
This did not get the recognition it deserved.
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My wife struggles to get her boots on and the footbed seems particularly grippy.
The fitter suggested some duct tape on the footbed to help but it wasn't great
We saw a product that is kind of like a flexible shoe horn
In the end we cut a strip from a heavy duty rubble sack and it works a treat! Glides the foot in and then removes easily.
She skis dry slope most weeks and keeps a rubble bag in her boot bag 
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I've seen a plastic bag used, split open and dropped in the boot. Let's your foot slide in easy, then pull it out. And cheaper than £8!
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@Boofont, Have heard this also works . . . .I'm sticking with the spray however - essential kit for hardcore boot fits!
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