I managed to get up right at the end of the day today. Only enough time for 1 run trying to score a decent CARV, but managed a 159, with turns between 155 and 167. Mrs Swskier was there so I got her to film.
I was cheating on SL skis again, and was thinking about the weight release, so the traverse in between the turns is a bit longer than I'd usually go for in the SL skis.
Very nice- . That's how I think I'm skiing, but I'm totally deluded-Carv has me topping out at 133 so far this season!
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I'm shifting my focus now to short turns, for a block of time. I'm reasonably happy where the longs are in regards to my exam next month, but the shorts need to come on.
Managed to bump up to a 151 this morning, but the consistency isn't there. I'm ranging between mid 140s and mid 160s in there, so lots of improvement needed.
@Perty, if you can get someone to film you, it'll really help as you'll see what the difference between what you think is happening and the reality and then can work on it from there.
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I think my Carv season has come to an end. My high score (140 shorts) was set 2nd day of my trip 5 weeks ago. Since then I’ve hit the high 130’s a few times generally on touring kit.
Having carv has certainly made me ski harder and think about my piste skiing but the scores have remained firmly in a range.
I suspect that with the right conditions, slope, different kit etc etc I could hit the mid 140s plus of course fitness and hurty old knees. That said I think the scores probably reflect how I’m skiing at the moment especially given I’ve not focused on performance piste skiing since I stopped training a few years ago.
That said I’m at a loss as to the style of shorts and carving they want.
As a self coaching tool I found it deeply irritating for a number of reasons but most because it operates without context and does not reward ‘effective’ skiing. I’m also doubtful of the accuracy of some metrics plus its coaching advice can be a bit random and inappropriate, again due to the lack of context.
Finally the fact that the hardware is effectively worthless doesn’t fit will with recycling and reducing tech going to landfill. I’d really like them to address this point.
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@swskier, I agree being filmed definitely helps highlight the issues. I managed my 133 score on 28th December and it all went [ahem!] downhill after that!
1. Later on 28th Dec morning I fell and felt a slight pull at the back on my left knee/ hamstring, was ok to ski, but took it easy.
2.. Then on my way back home on the same day (hard packed worn pistes after 3 weeks of no snow) a small rock in the middle of the piste ejected me from my left ski and I fell knee first onto another small stone. Bruised and feeling a battered I took a couple of days off.
3. Two days later and feeling revived after a successful long walk with the dog, I decided to treat myself to a spa session. As I emerged from a sauna, I slipped on a wet floor, and (probably) broke the toe next to my big toe on my LEFT foot .
For the next 4 weeks it was strapped up, on the plus side, once in my ski boot, I couldn’t really feel the toe, but the whole saga held me back from really going for it and I felt a bit lopsided.
4. To cap it all, I then went down with the mother of all debilitating winter coughs that everyone seems to have succumbed to this winter…
Back in the uk now, but hopefully come March I’ll be fit and ready to bump up that score!
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Hi chaps, so having been demoted back to Mountain Master by the new app algorithm (down to 148), I managed to get back to Grim Ripper status, with a 151 carving (scraped into the category, just). Tuning my Atomic S9 carvers properly absolutely helped, as did last weekend's fabulous snow.
Scored a 145 in moguls and a 148 off-piste, so need to up my game there. But I love the new functionality.
My problem is consistency. I really have to be working at it to get the high scores, it is far from effortless. Most of the time, cruising around but sort of concentrating, it's scoring me in the late 130s. I also don't score as highly carving unless I am on the SL skis. My off-piste score was on a pair of Line Bacon 115s, and my best mogul score on Line Chronic 101s. So some consistency/discipline is needed in my skiing.
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@Harry Flashman, of course pushing yourself carving is going to get better scores. Just skiing casually you aren’t going to hit the same angles…..
What I find is that the harder I push myself for a top score, the better my “casual” skiing scores are.
I’ve been using the training mode and it it has really helped me improve so far.
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Yeah, tried training mode for the first time and it's really fun! Up until now I have barely used that functionality as I am usually with people, so just ski, and then occasionally try a bit harder to go for a score.
I'm now skiing with audio even with other people, as i have bought some Shokz bone conduction earphones, so can hear both them and CARV. So, I was doing that thing where the app tells you to advance through levels and passes/fails your turns in real time. Amazing!
Now, I'm going to use it as CARV intended, and listen to the advice all the time when out on the mountain!
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@Harry Flashman, that’s exactly how I’ve started using it.
I did a week. My all time best was 140.
Started the week peaking at 134-135. By end of week I was hitting 143 regularly. Target is 150 for end of season. Will be happy with 148 though.
You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
Thats quite the progression!
I had it on for two days, and training mode still got me from 148 to 151 carving, so I am looking forward to trying it in earnest over multiple days.
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Also, I am now going to bring the same effort to the moguls thing as for carving. So great to have multiple disciplines to train!
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@Harry Flashman, I used it during my lunch break for Moguls, with training mode on. Unfortunately we only have a zipper line with about 8 turns so it's difficult to practice anything properly. Desperately need to find a proper mogul field to train for my exam at the end of March, but there's nothing in Zillertal, so I might have to head off somewhere else in Austria for a day.
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@swskier, Do you have any fresh snow there at the moment? It doesn't take long to build your own zipper line if you have a suitable bit of off-piste around. Certainly a better option than driving to another resort.
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@doddsie, what's fresh snow!?
Ideally I don't want a zipper line, our criteria specifically says not a single line / zipper line
Ideally I don't want a zipper line, our criteria specifically says not a single line / zipper line
Interesting. I got lucky as PdS had some good moguls and long runs last weekend. Shall try to focus in this a bit in my next trip. But I like skiing irregular bumps, as it requires strategy amd adaptability, as well as rhythm. In my mind, this translates nicely to off-piste skiing, even though a zipperline may be better for looking good on skis...
Loving CARV. Was thinking about giving it up, but the new functionality has re-hooked me. That, and actually using it as it was intended...
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Help?!
I’ve managed to mislay (lose…) my carv2 and I’m travelling tomorrow.
I have an annual pass from when I bought them in December. So I assume I can use any kit via Bluetooth?
Is anyone in the West Midlands kind enough to let me borrow their equipment for the week?! I would need to pick up this evening.
Anyone had an issue with the rubber USB protection disappearing from their CARV units? One of mine has gone walkabouts while skiing, no idea how. Did CARV replace it for you or did you just not bother?
EDIT: spoke with the help chat robot who has assured me it's not an issue, just make sure the USB port is dry before charging.
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swskier wrote:
Anyone had an issue with the rubber USB protection disappearing from their CARV units? One of mine has gone walkabouts while skiing, no idea how. Did CARV replace it for you or did you just not bother?
EDIT: spoke with the help chat robot who has assured me it's not an issue, just make sure the USB port is dry before charging.
Yep, one of mine broke on the PiPAU. The hinge section snapped. I noticed, and replaced the cap but a couple of days later it was gone. No issues yet, after about 10 days of further use, but I've yet to be out in truly wet conditions.
I've not bothered to chase it up with Carv (yet).
After all it is free
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@mgrolf, they don't replace them according to the chat, so it would require a full replacement of the unit which I guess they wouldn't do, possibly for a fee??
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@swskier, I'm loathe to pay for a replacement, especially when they say it should be ok. So I'll take the approach that it's not a problem. If the unit fails, then I'll revisit with them (and point out the response you've received). In reality, how much moisture is likely to get in there anyway? I don't believe the rubber flap can make much difference.
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Badbobby wrote:
Help?!
I’ve managed to mislay (lose…) my carv2 and I’m travelling tomorrow.
I have an annual pass from when I bought them in December. So I assume I can use any kit via Bluetooth?
Is anyone in the West Midlands kind enough to let me borrow their equipment for the week?! I would need to pick up this evening.
Please DM if you can… Will pay with wine!!
Depending where you are you are welcome to borrow mine but I'll need to find them as they were chucked into the random luggage for our return trip the other day. DM if interested
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@mgrolf, their full response (in case you need it) was:
I'm so sorry to hear that the dust cover has come off your Carv 2 sensor. That's definitely frustrating, especially when you're trying to protect your gear.
Unfortunately, we aren't able to replace just the dust cover. However, I can reassure you that the charging port on your Carv 2 is fully waterproof, so you can absolutely continue skiing with Carv without any issues!
Just like with any other electronic device, we recommend making sure the port is dry before you charge it.
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Ive had 2 replacement units from carv f.o.c, one of which was a faulty sensor (which they told ME about) and another replacing one which was unfortunately lost earlier this year. I also had a charging cover lost, but the faulty sensor still had its one, so I swapped that over.
The replacement units came f.o.c, but the invoice shows £59 , so not the end of the world if you bought one .
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Kenx is there any value do you think to add a note to leaderboard scores whether people are using carv 1.0 (ie original model with footbeds) or 2.0?
Be interesting too if anyone started with 1.0 and is now using 2.0 and did score change (up or down?).
You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
@sheffskibod, I had 1.0 and now 2.0, shows my best score from back then as 146. I wouldn't really attribute CARV to my improvements, more my own progression through exams, feedback in exams, youtube videos and just generally skiing a lot.
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@sheffskibod, I had 1.0 and now 2.0, shows my best score from back then as 146. I wouldn't really attribute CARV to my improvements, more my own progression through exams, feedback in exams, youtube videos and just generally skiing a lot.
So you reckon the scores are about the same whether 1.0 or 2.0 ?
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swskier wrote:
@mgrolf, their full response (in case you need it) was:
I'm so sorry to hear that the dust cover has come off your Carv 2 sensor. That's definitely frustrating, especially when you're trying to protect your gear.
Unfortunately, we aren't able to replace just the dust cover. However, I can reassure you that the charging port on your Carv 2 is fully waterproof, so you can absolutely continue skiing with Carv without any issues!
Just like with any other electronic device, we recommend making sure the port is dry before you charge it.
I've had the same issue. I actually found the dust civer and put it back in, but it fell out again. The system still works fine at this stage.
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sheffskibod wrote:
swskier wrote:
@sheffskibod, I had 1.0 and now 2.0, shows my best score from back then as 146. I wouldn't really attribute CARV to my improvements, more my own progression through exams, feedback in exams, youtube videos and just generally skiing a lot.
So you reckon the scores are about the same whether 1.0 or 2.0 ?
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Difficult to say for sure because I'm a better skier than I was 2 seasons ago, but doesn't seem wildly different.
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@sheffskibod, there is no difference in scores from 1.0 and 2.0. They now use the same algorithms. From speaking to the hardware and software team, Carv 2.0 is actually significantly more accurate than 1.0.
@swskier, I lost my dust cover on my first trip. It was actually my fault as I hadn’t clipped it into place and it caught in a zip and yanked off.
Been 2 years and no issues with the hardware.
Just carry on as normal. The hardware will be fine.
@lyricproofvest, well done! It’s great when it tells you that you have a new top score.
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I at least remembered my CARVs this week, but no decent scores, although I have now registered a score in all areas. Conditions meant I didn’t really try to score well, I just skied and listened to the advice given on the lifts.
I got a 143 carving, but feel I now know what I should be doing and can improve it a fair bit, just need a quieter and steeper slope.
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@lyricproofvest, well done! It’s great when it tells you that you have a new top score.
Thanks! I've really enjoyed using it. Thing that sells me on it is when I'm skiing poo-poo numbers are worse and when I think I've done a few solid turns it's better.
I think I preferred the tips on the old style app more but I really enjoy having something to focus on on a run. For the life of me though I still can't make nice enough "c shaped" turns to get it happy
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I booked a days lesson for myself yesterday over in Kaprun with Jonny Seale from SIA. The main aim was to work on short turns and bumps ahead of the L4 tech in a few weeks time.
I had CARV running in the background and wasn't looking at it at all until the end of the day. No overall improvement to my score, but my moguls jumped up 20 points and we only actually spent 2 or 3 runs in the zipper lines they have there. The rest of the morning we spent working on drills that would help with skiing in the moguls.
Now to try and find some or make some in the Zillertal!
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if you guys could chip in on this thread regarding your scores Id be most interested
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. That's how I think I'm skiing, but I'm totally deluded-Carv has me topping out at 133 so far this season!
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