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Back to the OP, I have used personal trainers on and off for fifteen years, but now struggle to find one that I feel offers good value. I now use Chat GPT to write a six week program, I report back each week and the program is updated for the next session. I gave a detailed description of myself, and what facilities the gym I go to has. This is working out really well and I am fitter and stronger than I have been for a while.
I am not sure that I would recommend this approach for an absolute and unfit beginner, but it is working for me and I am many hundreds of pounds (cash) better off.
I have also been working with Chat GPT to move to a healthier diet, ranking healthier options and worse options, which I am approaching with moderation.
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| fuzzydunlop wrote: |
| @inthecold, That’s great! I’m glad you’ve found it useful. If you need to stretch yourself try repeating the circuit (if you are not already). |
I'd say that's a stretch goal at this point!  What's funny is that it takes a workout like this to realise how inefficient simply do weights and cardio is. I have done classes and circuit training in the past, but not for a long time. I am not kidding when I say I was aching for days after doing this workout for the first time. My core and legs were demolished; I had aches in nooks and crannies I didn't know existed. I like that he keeps reminding you why you're doing it, too, and what the different progressions are. Great stuff.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| inthecold wrote: |
| fuzzydunlop wrote: |
| @inthecold, That’s great! I’m glad you’ve found it useful. If you need to stretch yourself try repeating the circuit (if you are not already). |
I'd say that's a stretch goal at this point! What's funny is that it takes a workout like this to realise how inefficient simply do weights and cardio is. I have done classes and circuit training in the past, but not for a long time. I am not kidding when I say I was aching for days after doing this workout for the first time. My core and legs were demolished; I had aches in nooks and crannies I didn't know existed. I like that he keeps reminding you why you're doing it, too, and what the different progressions are. Great stuff. |
I think it depends rather on what weights and cardio you do.
Bodybuilding weights and treadmill, versus strength/endurance weights and an agility sport like boxing.
I agree that for mobility, it seems (at my age) that mixing it up is good. I cycle (commute and Peloton), skip, and mess around on the kids' trampoline (latter is a better workout than it may seem!l
Weights are done not to lift big or look huge, but for strength and joint strength.
Man, being older sucks. For me, the only way I can stick with regular exercise is to mix it up and make it fun.
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I'm finding that, as I get older, 60 this year, doing any training after a day's work is really difficult, my job is quite physical and I'm often about knackered by 5pm
I learned years ago that even a small amount of running before a ski trip will almost stop my legs from aching from the skiing. I got up to doing 5K runs before a ski trip, but this didn't do much for thigh strength.
Once upon a time, as I ducked under the ropes to go offpiste, I would just lie on my back as I passed under the rope & be able to pull myself upright once past the rope, I failed to get back upright the last time I tried this, so I'm doing lots of sit ups etc, also doing lots of lunges to work on thigh strength with just a little bit of running to keep the aches away.
I'm not doing any arm/upper body work at all, my job keeps me quite big across the shoulders anyway, the last thing I want is more upper body weight for my legs to carry 
It's years since I last went to an actual gym, I always found them to be too warm & airless, if I stopped in one spot too long, everyone thought the roof was leaking with the amount of sweat coming off me
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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so I'm doing lots of sit ups etc,
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Obviously I don't know your knowledge in this topic, and hope I'm not speaking out of turn.
I big benefit for me though, its from a friend that's with extensive experience in fitness through football (not my sporting interest) and training, rehab etc. They advised me to use crunches, knees folded tight, and use 2-4 secs in the down stroke to really hold the tension through that period of each iteration. More Calesthinetic, I believe.
I was kinda plateaued in the way I was doing them, but with very significant shift in changing to this method. Also sitting on a foam pad to allow shoulders to go below hips at full extension, but stopping at the high point just before vertical. His view is that there's no value past that vertical point so don't waste time doing that.
My involvement is anecdotal, not in any way professional or qualified. This has very significantly shifted the result and effectiveness for me in this excersise. If changing to this from more open and faster reps, it'll significantly reduce your apparent capacity then much more effectively build back toward your former lithe performance that got you under those rope
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I'm not doing any arm/upper body work at all, my job keeps me quite big across the shoulders anyway, the last thing I want is more upper body weight for my legs to carry
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With a friend in long term ski group similar, appreciate that view and circumstance.
Whether other ares have them or not ? We've local outdoor gym equipment for various different focus in excersise. Among them the sit type with bodyweight leveraging against effort, specifically for two upper body orientation. One pull down, and one push up, both with three different hand position to alter focus in joints.
I find these particularly useful for regimen of joint articulation at full range with light muscle effort as opposed to more strenuously applied full unmitigated body weight excersise of pull up and parallel bar dips etc which I complete.
The rotation and reach fixed by the machine asking for compliance via joint movement I find beneficial.
They are rudimentary, but fulfill good mobility function for me when not applying more serious weighting.
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@Harry Flashman, absolutely, I wasn't clear there. I go into autopilot at the gym, straight into what ever muscle group I'm working that day. I've actually been thinking about changing my routine for a while but haven't found the time to really map something out.
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@Harry Flashman,
“Origen has since stated that she did not ever state that she insinuated that a woman claiming perimenopause as weight gain to be basically lazy. That is simply not how that post reads, and why I objected.”
It’s exactly how I understood it & I think you’re being argumentative for the sake of it.
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I am a few days into a workout program designed by Gemmini Ai and I am impressed. I put in my age, weight, gave it my time to run 4 miles, cycle 10K, how many press ups to failure etc. Mentioned I had a static bike, a rower, skierg, mat and some weights.Told it I had 12 days left until going skiing and wanted it to design me a program. You can update it with things you find difficult as you go along and it will adjust the targets. Each day has a different focus, strength and power, endurance, stability and core, recovery days and taper into the PSB. Tailor made torture.
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@Gordyjh, I think both Origen and I had left this discussion behind.
Suffice to say, I have had more than one private message from SHers saying thank you for my position, so I guess we all have different opinions.
As to my being argumentative for the sake of it, if that is also your opinion, you are of course welcome to it! Have a lovely day! 
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I'm hoping that I will be fitter this coming season. Having completed a 5k running plan and then a 10k one, I have seen a big improvement in my VO2 max heart rate and general fitness. Plus with more stretching and single leg strength work I am now not only fitter but also more flexible.
Will see once we hit the slopes though!!
I need to carry this on through the winter though...
I just need to shift another stone to 1/2 stone as well!!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Harry Flashman wrote: |
Suffice to say, I have had more than one private message from SHers saying thank you for my position, so I guess we all have different opinions.
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I hadn’t looked into this thread until now.
Usually, I dislike thread drifts. So I suppose private messages should be more to my liking. However, I want to speak my support of your position, as I see that as an important matter.
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Thanks abc. And sorry, all, for derailing the thread so extensively.
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You know it makes sense.
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| Origen wrote: |
Testosterone therapy must be problematic too, because of the incidence of prostate cancer - the immediate response to which is often to use hormone therapy to REDUCE testosterone levels. Steroid drugs (such as those widely prescribed for various rheumatic and other inflammatory conditions) can also play havoc with male hormone levels, leading to loss of libido, shrinkage of the genitals etc etc Not as bad as what women have to put up, but not much fun.
One friend of mine, just embarking on hormone therapy for metastasized prostate cancer, told me ruefully about a friend of his who had been delighted when his hair started growing back, having long been bald, but wasn't so pleased about the tits.
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I’ve been on hormone therapy (testosterone blocker) for 18 months for prostate cancer treatment, hopefully only another 6 months to go. Fortunately I’ve escaped the man boobs, and hot flushes have been manageable. The greatest problems for me have been fatigue and fat gain, despite exercise and careful eating. I’m looking forward to a fortnight in the 3 Vallees in Feb having missed last year for radiotherapy. I’ll be leaving the off piste gear at home and trying to improve my piste skiing. I’m hoping that when (if) my HT ends my body’s testosterone starts to flow again so I can get some energy back. Has anyone else been down this road?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Hey @On the rocks, sorry to hear that you're going through it.
A hormone imbalance sucks whichever way it's happening, whether it's through illness, menopause or as a result of treatment. You just don't feel yourself but it's difficult to pinpoint exactly what it is that's wrong. It sort of creeps up on you too.
Good call on having a fallow year for off piste. Hopefully you'll have a blast T3V.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@Cometspi, Thanks. While we are on the subject I would urge all men over 50 to get a PSA test. If your GP is reluctant because you have no symptoms insist on it. A GP turned down my initial request a few years ago. Had he relented or I had been more forceful I would be in a better place now.
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Well, that escalated quickly...
I think it's worth mentioning roller blades as a fun way to build some leg strength and also balance. Someone said balance wasn't an issue, and in terms of ski fitness, the thread topic, I'd probably agree. But I think in terms of how well you can ski, or even the ability to access some of the more advanced techniques, balance helps a lot. Lots of skiing seems to be really micro managing fore aft and lateral balance as you make turns, so being able to stand centred and balanced on the ski as it moves around under you helps. And if you can comfortably balance on 300mm skate base you'll probably find a 1.7m ski comes a bit easier.
It's also really good for getting a feeling for the way your feet move under you as you carve.
Bit of a learning curve and I'd advise wrist guards but it's a lot of fun and I find a few laps of the park on skates a lot more fun than running a lap. But then I've never much liked running. Def different muscle engagement as well, much more outer thigh which is difficult to target with anything else.
Just tossing it in as another fun way to stay active. If I lived anywhere near decent trails I'd be on my MTB as much as possible though.
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I'd love to learn how to roller blade. But I don't fancy hurting myself before skis season!
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| On the rocks wrote: |
| @Cometspi, Thanks. While we are on the subject I would urge all men over 50 to get a PSA test. If your GP is reluctant because you have no symptoms insist on it. A GP turned down my initial request a few years ago. Had he relented or I had been more forceful I would be in a better place now. |
Sorry to hear that, but a well timed reminder - need to chase up my GP!! They mentioned a check at 40, but when I went to book and appointment they couldn't fit me in and then I forgot... Skip 10 years and now need to chase them again!!
Well worth the checks gents.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Harry Flashman wrote: |
| I'd love to learn how to roller blade. But I don't fancy hurting myself before skis season! |
I briefly took up rollerblading 4 yrs ago, it made me ache in exactly the same way as skiing does. In reality, any form of leg exercise will benefit skiing.
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Here's my report after the psb.
I only did a few very short runs, instead of 2-3 3-5 km runs.
Up to 40 sit ups every 1-2 days
I got up to 120 side lunges on each leg, holding the other leg straight & angulating my hip as much as possible.
I noticed a definite improvement on the first day of skiing, less thigh burn.
Almost nothing in the way of aching leg muscles during the week.
I did nothing after getting back last Saturday, until doing some sit ups & 100 side lunges each side on Wednesday, my glutes & thighs have been aching ever since!!!
Just need to keep it up & build more thigh strength before I hit Avoriaz and the Swiss wall in 4 weeks time
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Are you muscle bound now??
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| eps wrote: |
| Are you muscle bound now?? |
Sadly, the six pack is still hiding inside a party keg
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I've been doing physio exercises due to a shoulder dislocation and fractured humeral head, I don't think I've missed a day since starting them and due to changing parts of my diet and keeping up my usual routine, I'm now less than 13 stone (I'm 6'2") I suppose I got something out of my first serious ski accident! 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| inthecold wrote: |
Great workout, thanks for the link. Been doing it the last few weeks. |
+1
I am also using the exercises from the Warren Smith site [url=https://www.warrensmith-skiacademy.com/tests/skier-symmetry][/url]
I feel like both will make a difference next week.
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