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Snow Socks...AutoSocks are legal in France since Oct 2012

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Snow Socks...AutoSocks are legal in France since Oct 2012

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There has been much discussion in the past regarding the legality of AutoSocks v Chains in the French Alps. Apologies if this has been recently discussed again! We bought a new pair of AutoSocks last month for our new car and, after exchanging emails with them we found out about downloading the Gendarmes Certificate for B26 usage to attach to our packaging as the Norwegians had not yet updated the packaging. However, once I knew what we were looking for and had a closer look I realised the certificate is there at the bottom...very tiny, but it's there. So, at last - it's official... AutoSocks are LEGAL!!!
Again, I apologise if its old news to all of you but I've only just joined Snowheads!!
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WobblyLegs, welcome to snowheads. snowHead I think a lot of the discussion has been about how effective, and hard-wearing, they are, compared to chains. Opinions (just for a change.....) vary!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
WobblyLegs, indeed welcome and that's useful info.

You don't happen to live in South Northants do you? Just I had this conversation with a friend recently!
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Thanks pam W. we have been in such a quandary wondering whether to shell out extra dosh on chains when they (possibly) wont be used, already have AutoSocks and have weird requirements on our tyre size and clearance for chains. I just feel relieved that the certificate is finally there! We have winter tyres too this year so hoping all will be well Happy
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Hmmm... Boris! Off to Vallandry in a couple of weeks by any chance??
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WobblyLegs, I drove (with chains on top of my snow tyres, on a very snowy day) behind a car with snowsocks on the front wheels. He seemed to be getting along just fine.
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Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
WobblyLegs, oh FFS now go read your email and pop into the bar in Apres
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After all it is free Go on u know u want to!
So when you are pulled into an aire de chainage by the plod and he sees the socks and says Non you wave the certificate at him and he's a happy bunny. Is that the idea? I'll have to look at my Michelin Composite ones to see if they have anything on them. I think they're supposed to be approved.
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Claude B, having also looked at this, Autosocks do claim on their website to be the only approved supplier.
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Cheers Boris!
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Boris, Mine are more like chains but made of a composite material with metallic studs. Different concept to the socks. I'm sure I saw something somewhere when I bought them. I only drive at Easter so the chances of needing to use them are far slimmer, I haven't used them in the last 5 years but always keep some in the car.
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Yes they do claim to be and their advice re downloading the certificate and carrying a translation of the Oct 2012 release sounds good. We couldnt find a link to the actual Gendarmerie Website though. My worry was if we encountered a Gendarme who may be having a bad day and feeling particularly stroppy and awkward! So having it included in the packaging seems pretty bulletproof!
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Just looked and there's a compliance statement in french on the plasticised instructions that double as a kneeling mat Happy
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You know it makes sense.
Claude B,
If they have the Michelin badge on them surely they are automatically approved, after all they are the French National Tyre Company aren't they ? Toofy Grin
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
WobblyLegs, if you get stuck we will come rescue you in the Disco Laughing
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But that will mean we'll have to wait for you!!
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WobblyLegs, true, but we will have wine

Now go to the Après section and stick your head in the bar
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 Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
I think that the French law from July 1985 is still in place http://www.viabilite-hivernale.equipement.gouv.fr/IMG/pdf/arrete_18-07-1985_cle21782d.pdf (articles 8-12) and they define what equipment is suitable when you drive on a road with a 'panneau ' B26 or C14 http://www.viabilite-hivernale.equipement.gouv.fr/utilisation-des-panneaux-b26-et-a5012.html. They go on to say ''D’autres principes (snowgrip ou araignée) ne sont que des moyens de secours pour se sortir d’un mauvais pas et qui ne peuvent être utilisés pour circuler sur une section de route délimitée par un panneau « chaînes à neige obligatoire » " which would make me think that snowsocks may not be entirely legal in that context but are probably tolerated - depending who stops you! Smile and say 'Bonjour' rather than 'Hi' and you will already have a greater chance of being let through...

All that said a recent ruling seems to have asked for snowsocks (chaussettes neige) to be reconsidered on the approved list
http://www.juricaf.org/arret/FRANCE-CONSEILDETAT-20121004-362379

The Gendarmerie haven't updated their website it would appear but this is the page
http://www.gendarmerie.interieur.gouv.fr/fre/Sites/Gendarmerie/A-la-loupe/Securite-routiere-Equipements-speciaux


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Thanks X-Peak. With the certificate on the packaging I'm happy to chance it!
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